Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:02:16 -0800

So let's just throw it all out since noone can know what is true and what is not anyway?
I can see where you get this idea since your mentor writes:

Justification means that at every point in our theological inquiry we have to let our knowledge, our theology, our formulations, our statements, be called into question by the very Christ toward whom they point, for He alone is the Truth.

Justification means that our theological statements are of such a kind that they do not claim to have truth in themselves, for by their very nature they point away from themselves to Christ as the one Truth of God. Therefore whenever we claim that our theological statements or our formulations have their truth in themselves we are turning back into the way of self-justification.

Out of sheer respect for the majesty of the Truth as it is revealed in the Holy Scriptures, we have to do our utmost to speak correctly and exactly about it—that is the meaning of orthodoxy and the way of humility—but when we have done all this, we have still to confess that we are unfaithful servants, that all our efforts fall far short of the truth.

My question then is:  Is there no victory?  Are we just to be passive, grovel and cringe since we are so impotent and can't know anything?  Who are the "good and faithful servants who enter into His Rest?"  Who are those spoken of in Luke 16:16 who press into the Kingdom.  This is not a passive thing, it is pressing oneself in with energy.  What exactly is the Kingdom to you Lance?

 

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:51:33 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

It hasn't Judy but, untruth has.
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Since when has truth been evaluated by how many have in the past gotten of the
track and fallen?  As sad as that may be every one will stand or fall before his own
Master.
 
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:34:49 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I did not believe the former to have been the case, David. As to the
> latter,
> not unlike Judy, I've always thought you spoke from the heart. I
> also
> believe that you both believe that you 'know'.
> However..................I > needn't remind you, by name, of the host of persons over the
> centuries who 'knew that they knew'!!
>
> From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Your suggestion is a possibility if my speaking was a matter of
> trying to
> > imitate the early Christians.  However, I speak from my heart,
> from a
> > source
> > of love that dwells in my heart.  Therefore, if my speech happens
> to
> > coincide with the early believers, I know that I am walking in the
> same
> > spirit as they did.
> >
> > David Miller
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 7:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
> >
> >
> > You, David, may be DOING what the early church DID without MEANING
> what
> > the
> > early church MEANT. On this one DH may be closer to the truth than
> DM.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: March 19, 2006 07:21
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
> >
> >
> >> David Miller wrote:
> >>>> Do you ever warn people about
> >>>> the FIRE of hell?
> >>
> >> DAVEH wrote:
> >>> No, I don't do much preaching, and when
> >>> I do....I prefer to be more positive in my
> >>> approach.
> >>
> >> I guess the LDS organization has not restored the church then,
> eh?  You
> >> are
> >> not doing what the early church did.  :-)
> >>
> >> David Miller
> >>
> >> ----------
> >> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that
> you may
> >> know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6)
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