----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 20, 2006 07:36
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is
Adam?
Brigham Young taught, "Elohim, Yahova & Michael, were father, Son and
grandson. They made this Earth & Michael became Adam"
Joseph F. Smith Journal, 17 June 1871
"The Father frequently came to visit his son Adam, and talked and walked
with him; and the children of Adam were more or less acquainted with their
Grandfather, and their children were more or less acquainted with their
Great-Grandfather . . ." (Journal of Discourses 9:148, 12
Jan. 1862).
If men are to become gods Men should Follow Adam & women are to
follow Eve
BUT One must never believe that Adam ever actually accomplished his
godhood?
Even if he was partner with Elohim and Jehovah?
Where was the Holy Ghost, what was he doing during this time?
Why the substitution of Michael/Adam?
Who is this Father - Son - GrandSON
TRINITY?
Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I too should like to hear David's response to
this.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 19, 2006 20:15
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] torrance and
logic
David , in other posts of the day, I find you saying that yoou
and Torrance are in agreement concerninglogic. I may
ahve misunderstood your wording, but that was what you said according to
my perspective.
Below you say this:
If you define "rationalist" in the more esoteric sense of the idea
that
reason is the source of truth, then I do not believe the Holy
Spirit is a
rationalist. By this definition, I am not a
rationalist either. However, I
do believe that the Holy Spirit
is rational. He also does not lie or employ
deception to mislead
others. The Holy Spirit uses rational thought to speak
to us,
and he expects us to include rationality as a basis of belief and
action.
---------- DM
Torrance might give caution with these words:
".............. we should seek to understand Christ, not by way of
observational deductions from his appearances, but in the light of what he
is in himself in his internal relations with God, that is, in terms of his
intrinsic significance disclosed through his self-witness and
self-communication to us in word and deed and reflected through the
evangelical tradition of the Gospel in the medium which he created for
this purpose in the apostolic foundation of the Church ......
When we adopt this kind of approach, whether in natural science or in
theology, we find that progress in understanding is necessarily
circular. We develop a form of inquiry in which we allow some field
of reality to disclose itself to us in the complex of its internal
relations or its latent structure, and thus seek to understand it in the
light of its own intrinsic intelligibility or logos
..............Thus we seek to understand something, not by schematising it
to an external or alien framework of thought, but by operating wit h a
framework of thought appropriate to it" -------The Mediation of
Christ pp 4,5
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