DAVEH:   ?!?!?!?!   I had to read that about 3 times to even understand your question, Lance! 

    As I see it, there is a vast difference between understanding something, and believing it to be true.  Let's assume that baptizing infants is a correct doctrine.  If I understand why those denominations baptize babies, but do not have a witness of the Holy Spirit that it is true, then I might be inclined to think it is in error....even if I am wrong in that belief while at the same time understanding it. 

    The flip side of that is one can have little or no understanding of the truth of something, yet one know that it is true if the HS has witnessed that it is true.

Lance Muir wrote:
DH:IFF that position you claim to understand is, in reality, true THEN you don't actually understand it, do you?
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Sent: March 20, 2006 10:08
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

We're saying 'if you really understood then, you'd agree with me/us'.

DAVEH:  I don't see it that way at all, Lance.  One can understand something and still disagree.  For instance, I understand why some denominations baptize infants.  That does not mean that I agree with them.....rather it just means I can understand their rationale for doing so. 

    As I see it, some people read something related to LDS theology and then assume it means something entirely different than what LDS people understand it to mean.  Usually that is because the person either has an agenda, and reads into the words the meaning that fits that agenda.......or, the person takes the words out of context and/or fails to consider related clarifying information .......or, the person fails to consider the source of the information and assumes the information has more relevance than reality dictates.

Lance Muir wrote:
Sadly Dave, this is the retort that many/most make in the face of disagreement. We're saying 'if you really understood then, you'd agree with me/us'.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave
Sent: March 19, 2006 17:16
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

Do I know LDS theology as well as you do?

DAVEH:   You certainly seem to know a lot about it, Kevin.  However, it is obvious that you don't understand it.

Kevin Deegan wrote:
Do you agree with Lance DH?
Do I know LDS theology as well as you do?
Or is Lance putting words in your mouth?
I seem to remember you saying quite the opposite!


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