The burning bush is not a weak observation concerning the question of 
whether or not God is capable of creating an unquenchable fire.  It would 
not be proof that he has done it, but it does logically support the idea 
that he is capable, even though the bush is not burning right now.

By the way, when I climbed Mount Sinai, they have a rock there with black 
magnesium deposits that make it look like a bush was burned into the rocks. 
The guide there tells everyone that it is the burning bush of Moses.  :-)

David Miller


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Dave Hansen
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

DAVEH:  I would think anybody who understands that the argument of using a 
burning bush as evidence to prove that God is capable of creating an 
unquenchable fire is a bit weak if that unquenchable fire (burning bush) has 
been quenched.

ShieldsFamily wrote:
Yours?


DAVEH:  Not at all, Izzy.  It is simply an observation of illogic.

ShieldsFamily wrote:
Oh, I guess God forgot how to do that particular trick, eh? iz

Doesn't that teach us something about God's
abilities of creating an unquenchable fire?
DAVEH:   Only if the bush is still burning.

David Miller wrote:
DaveH, I agree with Judy here.  The argument of a "literal impossibility" is
a little weak when we are talking about God.  Moses did see a bush that was
burning but not consumed.  Doesn't that teach us something about God's
abilities of creating an unquenchable fire?

David Miller




Why try to confuse Conor right off the bat Lance?  Genesis is not a "science
book" per se.
Although the writer of Genesis is also the God who created all that is
called "science"
Are you asking Conor to interpret Genesis in the light of Astronomy and
Physics?

Just this morning I read this interaction between DaveH and KevinD   (I
think) ...

KD: That is explained by the fire and brimstone imagery that is in reality
endless torment.
a fire which cannot be consumed, even an unquenchable fire

DAVEH:   More imagery that is physically an impossibility.  Fire can be
extinguished, whereas
mental torment can go on forever.

So tell me - What is a physical impossibility for God? The same God who
delivered what he had
promised to Abraham and Sarah when they were 90 and 100yrs old respectively.
A God who was
able to roll back the Red Sea until his people crossed and afterward kept
them in the desert for 40yrs
feeding them with manna from heaven and keeping their clothes from wearing
out and their feet from
swelling.  The same God who stopped the sun for 24 hours and caused an axe
head to float on water
The God who energized His prophet causing him to run for 25 miles in front
of Jezebels' chariot and
had the ravens feed him while he rested and regrouped in a cave.

Tell me - what would be too difficult for a God like this and how can the
feeble efforts of man explain
Him?


On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:57:56 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Conor: Might we hear from you on this? Frame this in whatever fashion suits
you.

Lance



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