Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

[David Miller]

I have seen NOBODY on TruthTalk express the theology of Gary North.  You guys sound to me like the way you hear Judy talking authoritatively about Torrance.  :-)  It is obvious that you do not understand the theology of North and others on TruthTalk.   David Miller   ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin & David) Stage direction: The word 'certainly' should be spoken so as to provide the same emphasis/tone that 'Ollie' had when saying 'here's another fine mess you've gotten me into, Stanley...' ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 09:48 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that has been written on TT.     jd   -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion       Bible N Sword!   Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North (Reformed Catholic Taliban) This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan.   "The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock, which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment against murder.” Gary North   “The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva North   “The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.” Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North written from New Geneva   ”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other cheek is a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as the Christian is impotent politically or militarily. Gary North Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's sovereignty and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has abandoned God's tool of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds CALVINistic to me) There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile wife under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation of Old Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary "we are the replacement" North   What the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. This strategy is a strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the sword) North   " Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the contrary, He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God commands us to keep His word; therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” Gary North “The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is between fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This conception of the battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind is between the Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among Protestant groups takes seriously the law of God, and everyone else.” ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Is KD a pseudonym for Gary North? "if ever a continent of covenant-breakers deserved this attribution (extermination), the "native Americans" did." Pope Gary North (comments added) Pope Gary North "The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit...must be denied citizenship".   Reformed Baptist? LOL Baptist Reconstruction? LOL Baptist Kingdom builders? LOL Baptist DominionISM? LOL Baptist Pope ROTFL   RC Pope Calvin Reformed Presbyterian Bring in the kingdom Presbytery & JD Replacement Theology "We are Jews" Presbytery, Romans, Reformed C's, Mormons, Reformed, JD & Lance!   Apparently you are TOTALLY IGNORANT of Baptists http://www.reformedreader.org/histb.htm see # 4 The priesthood of the believer & #5 right of soul liberty or religious liberty # 7 The Separation of Church and State   Try to get your baseless assertions straight: Gary North Reformed Catholic - Presbytery RJ Rushdoony Reformed Catholic - Presbytery Gary Demar -Reformed Catholic - presbytery   Kindy garten 101 - Who is who? Baptist Roger Williams  Holding a Bible http://www.zbt.org/traditions/Roger_Williams_photo.htm   PROTESTant RC Zwingly - Holding Bible & SWORD http://www.antipas.org/books/protesters/prot_images/zwingli.jpg   For all you kiddies TEST QUESTION who has the sword?   Even some Presbyterian RC's admit they are just RC  http://reformedcatholicism.blogspot.com/   Dominion is the Sole Realm of Popes, Protestants & Potentates!!!    Again all the ammo you have is Psycho assertionISM! Name smearing and grossly misrepresenting peoples beliefs. These REFORMED Catholics are just like their Papa Baptists do not preach this baloney never have. Popes Protestants and Potentates have blood on their hands. Most times it was the blood of Baptists You defame their pure blood, shed by murderous RC's Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you     RJ Rushdooney http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/fundienazis/royal_race.htm The Royal Race of the Redeemed? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is KD a pseudonym for Gary North? Have you finally come out of hiding after the Y2K fiasco? I do believe that were we to remove the hoods from some on TT we would see that which underlies the hatred that you spread throughout the mid-east and, elsewhere. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 07:50 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism AGAIN you show your Short Comprehension I am NOT a REFORMED CATHOLIC. wrong slot Lance, better take it to your friends for a consensus   What do you know of RJR? Not as much as you think, I suppose. He is NOT a Fundamentalist Like Papa like son, bring out the stake.... Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Spoken like a true studen of RJR. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 22, 2006 21:05 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Let's have them Teach Dominion Theology in school ; ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm talking about fundy creationist versions in the school systems and you are talking about religious people!!!   Amazing     Maybe we should install a different creationist version for every major school system   ....................   I am sure we can find enough fundy ideas to go around.  That way , you would have to worry about consensus and no one will have the slightest idea what to believe.  but you and Kev will be happy.  CONSENSUS BE DAMNED.   KNOW THE TRUTH AND IT SHALL MAKE YOU FREE !!   jd       -------------- Original message -------------- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I surmised as much JD; my point being that religious ppl have many and varied points of view about anything and everything and this is no measure by which to gauge what is needful or true.   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:20:02 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you even know what this thread is about, Judy?   WHICH VIEW OF CREATIONISM GETS INTO THE CIRRICULUM  --   HUH  ???   From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So? There isn't a single view of the whole church that is agreed upon by the whole church either.  What does that prove?    judyt   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:27:56 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps the Bishop has the same concerns I do.   I know this  --  there isn't a single view of creationism that is agreed upon by the whole church.     jd       -------------- Original message -------------- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John wrote: > The world in which we live would reject > any mention of God in the evolutionary process,  > IMO.   But  creationism in the schools?   Could > that not be considered the beginnings of a fanatical > fundamentalist take-over of the culture? ROTFLOL.  I sure hope you were being facetious on purpose.   John wrote: > But to allow a mere  statement that suggests God > is somehow in control as the Creator(?)   If this > could be presented into the secular system of > education without it being coopted by the fundies  > --  go for it.   But I doubt that it can.  What a shame > that radical fundamentalism within Christiandom forces > the Body to dismiss a perfectly wonderful opportunity > to introduce the Creator to others.  In case you did not notice, the fundamentalists are not causing the acknowledgement of our Creator to be forbidden in schools.  It is the liberal loonies like this Archbishop of Canterbury who are doing this.   David Miller       Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. New Yahoo! 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