RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:13:14 -0800

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Here's an idea  -- maybe the church could actually do its job !!     You know, instead of paying the local school district to do it. 
 
jd
 
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From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Solution: teach false theories. 
 
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What's scary is that you think the solution is to have an antagonistic educator "teach" what he does not believe   -- you thinking, of course, that he will do so without commentary that thoroughly negates the purpose of this compromise.  In the real world,  Linda,  you simply cannot construct a model in which this will work to our (the Christian church  -- whose address do we use , again ??) favor.   In fact, to get all the warring factions to agree, the stateent on creationism would be so watered down as to be really meaningless.  
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Scary to the max.
 
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Of course.  But that is not really the issue.
 
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So IYO it is better to have “secular” folk teaching untruth than truth.  I see…………….????  izzy
 
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It's not what is taught (for me and in this case) so much as it is WHO TEACHES THEM.    You want the secular world to be responsible   --   I don't. 
 
jd
 
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> So, here we are, back to the fact that IF you believed something to be true
> you would NOT want children to be taught about it. Can you see why some of
> us aren't following your logic? iz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:28 AM
> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
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> IZ:No, I would not.
>
>
> - ---- Original Message -----
> From: "ShieldsFamily"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] OM>> To:
> Sent: March 25, 2006 06:14
> ; Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
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> & gt; Dodging the question, as usual. iz
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
> > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:54 PM
> > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
> >
> > It ain't true. It's a hyperbolic hypothetical, Iz.
> >
> > .
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ShieldsFamily"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > To:
> > Sent: March 24, 2006 17:16
> > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
> >
> >
> >> That wasn't the question; I asked whether IF you believe it were true,
> >> you
> >> would want it taught in schools. You said NO. Pathetic, eh? iz
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
> >> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:49 PM
> >> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> >> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
> >>
> >> David you are like so right, man! familiarity....contempt...were those
> >> the
> >> words? Probably got it comin'.
> >>
> >> Actua lly Lady Iz, I prefer that untruth NOT be taught in schools (i.e.
> >> creationism)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Mes sage -----
> >> From: "ShieldsFamily"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> To:
> >> Sent: March 24, 2006 16:35
> >> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
> >>
> >>
> >>> So you prefer that untruth be taught in scho ols. That's all that's
> >>> left.
> >>> Pathetic IMO. izzy
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
> >>> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:25 AM
> >>> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
> >>>
> >>> Still no.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "ShieldsFamily"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >>> To:
> >>> Sent: March 23, 2006 23:04
&g t; >>> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> If you thought it was true would you want it taught in schools, Lance?
> >>>> JD?
> >>>> izzy
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:32 PM
> >>>> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
> >>>>
> >>>> David:Is that all you were meaning to say concerning RW? If that's it
> >>>> then,
> >>>> I'm with RW on this one. I don't think it should be taught in schools
> >>>> either.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "David Miller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >>>> To:
> >>>> Sent: March 23, 2006 15:04
> >>>> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
> >>>>
> >>>> ;
> >>>>> The CNN report: Asked if creationism should be taught in schools,
> >>>>> Williams
> >>>>> said: "I don't think it should, actually. No, no."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So how have I misch aracterized him?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> David Miller
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Lance Muir"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >>>>> To:
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:41 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> David:YIKES!! You mischaracterize both Williams and his position.
> >>>>> DOUBLE
> >>>>> YIKES!! I know that you will continue to do so. You are truly trapped,
> >>>>> David. You've bound yourself with your own theology (not, as you
> >>>>> believe,
> >>>>> Script ure). Your teachers will one day answer for what they've done to
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> and, what you now do to others.Yikes! Yikes! Yikes (that'd be triple
> >>>>> yikes)
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "David Miller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >>>>> To:
> >>>>> Sent: March 22, 2006 10:25
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
> >>>>& gt;
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Lance wrote:
> >&g t;>>>>> If Williams is a 'liberal loonie' then
> >>>>>>> you are a 'sectarian loonie' , David.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm sectarian only in the sense that the holy and the profane ought
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>> separate. I am not sectarian within the group of those who have
> >>>>>> submitted
> >>>>>> unto Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Lance wrote:
> >>>>>>> He is a brother in Christ who believes
> >>>>>>> differently than you on some matters.
> >>>>>>> Now, if that makes him what you say
> >>>>>>> then, that makes you what I say.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> He is not a liberal loony for be lieving differently from me. The
> >>>>>> moniker
> >>>>>> was offered because of his statement about how acknowledgement of our
> >>>>>> Creator did not belong in schools. He made an irrational statement,
> >>>>>> assuming that CNN reported him accurately. If he is a brother in
> >>>>>> Christ,
> >>>>>> then I expect to hear a retraction or clarification made soon as
> >>>>>> other
> >>>>>> believers correct him. If he is not a brother in Christ, then he
> >>>>>> will
> >>>>>> continue to support the working of iniquity that seeks to remove the
> >>>>>> acknowledgment of God our Creator from the schools. What he said was
> >>>>>> very < BR>> >>>>>> damaging to our society, to believers who want to acknowledge God the
> >>>>>> Creator in their study of origins. To think that science and the
> >>>>>> acknowledgement of God are incompatible is expected from scientists
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>> not
> >>>>>> from theologians, and certainly not from the Right Reverend Doctor
> >>>>>> Rowland
> >>>>>> Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> David Miller
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