* Betr.: " Re: [tryton-dev] Payment Types" (Mon, 5 Dec 2011 10:41:13 +0100):
> On 05/12/11 07:58 +0100, Albert Cervera i Areny wrote:
> > A Dilluns, 5 de desembre de 2011 00:48:53, Cédric Krier va escriure:
> > > On 05/12/11 00:29 +0100, Jordi Esteve wrote:
> > > > Al 04/12/11 23:55, En/na Cédric Krier ha escrit:
> > > > >On 04/12/11 19:45 +0100, Albert Cervera i Areny wrote:
> > > > >>Next thing we'll need in our localization is being able to assign
> > > > >>payment types to parties, sales and purchase orders, invoices, and
> > > > >>account move lines.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>A payment type defines how an invoice is going to be paid. Some
> > > > >>examples can be: credit card, bank transfer or cheque.
> > > > >>So the question is: do other countries need similar features and have
> > > > >>some specific requirements?
> > > > >
> > > > >It is very difficult to answer this because I don't see the usage of
> > > > >such informations.
> > > > >Of course in some cases, you can add some facilities to pay an invoice
> > > > >(like pre-filled bank transfer form) but for me, customers are always
> > > > >allowed to pay the way they want.
> > > >
> > > > Not always. There are lot of cases that the customer invoices are
> > > > paid when the supplier wants, normally by an automatic process throw
> > > > the banks. For example, when you pay the electricity or the water
> > > > invoices. The customer don't say "I want to pay my electricity
> > > > invoice this day". The electricity company, as supplier, takes the
> > > > order to get the money of their customers, normally by a automatic
> > > > process between the company bank and the customer bank.
> > >
> > > Ok this is a special cases where the customer allow the supplier to take
> > > money from his bank account. So the company know about that.
> > > But this is just one special process for such customers. I don't see it
> > > is useful to get this information on any of the proviously described
> > > document.
> >
> > Again, this is country-specific stuff. When companies make an agreement,
> > they agree on both payment-term and payment type. Usually the customer is
> > free to pay that they want but suppliers take note about how they're going
> > to be paid.
> >
> > The payment method described by Jordi is extremely usual here (not only for
> > water or electricity companies).
> > There are bank transfers and other methods
> > such as cheques and pagares and suppliers want to have some control how the
> > invoice is going to be paid,
>
> That's a mirage :-)
>
> > although the most important thing is to
> > distinguish between those "to be sent" and those "to be received".
> >
> > You need that information in sales/purchases and invoices because you may
> > usually expect bank transfers but for some one specific invoice you may
> > have to send it yourself to the bank so you need to have control of that.
>
> I don't understand.
> For me, once you give the authorization to a company to take from your
> bank account, you don't expect to receive any other payment request.
> (I don't expect to receive an payment request from my telecom company).
I think we could agree, that it is necessary for payments to track, if the own
company has to be the active part in doing e.g. a direct debit or if it will be
remain on the passive side for receiving the payment.
I am still analyzing, if payment types is really all we need, but at the
moment I think, that those could be the right thing to do it. Best would be to
collect the data (perhaps in a blue print) needed at the end to handle all sort
of payments and to find the generic solution.
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Mathias Behrle
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