On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Albert Cervera i Areny
<[email protected]> wrote:
> A Diumenge, 18 de desembre de 2011 00:05:25, Cédric Krier va escriure:
>
>> > I don't think I explained correctly. I want users to be able to create
>
>> > and  upload their own reports. They can do that by creating a new
>
>> > ir.action.report record, but there's nothing in that record that
>
>> > indicates what "execute" function it should use so there's no smart way
>
>> > I can implement that.
>
>>
>
>> Could you describe exactly how it will work?
>
>> Because I thought that such reports were created in JasperReport.
>
>
> Ok. Some background information:
>
>
> JasperReports [1] is a java library which interprets report files in the
> .jrxml extension/format, compiles them to the .jasper extension/format and
> can render them into PDF, ODT, XLS and other output formats, although PDF is
> clearly the best output. There's a .jrxml WYSIWYG editor called iReport [2]
> which end users can use to design their reports, picking the fields from
> several sources, such as SQL, Hibernate, OLAP, XML or (in latest versions)
> JSON, among others.
>
>
> What we allow in OpenERP is that users create their own reports using
> iReport with an HTTP XML datasource where information is provided by the
> OpenERP server directly which allows users to browse through the fields
> available in the ERP and add them in the report. Once the report is ready
> they upload it to the OpenERP creating a new ir.action.report. In this case
> we automatically create a new Report Keyword in the appropriate model so
> they have the report avilable.
>

Woow I think this is one of the bases for spreading the tryton erp to
a big amount of people.
In open source erp's you don't see much this feature, but in simple
commercial programs you
find it in many of them.

Rgds
Saxa


>
> The way the module works is that it picks the .jrxml report the user has
> created, parses it to extract some information, creates all the data files
> needed in CSV format and passes the .jrxml and CSV files to a java
> application which is encharge of compiling the report and rendering it using
> the provided CSV files. Once the document (usually PDF) is ready, the module
> returns the PDF to the caller.
>
>
>> > I need a mechanism by which the JasperReports engine will be called
>
>> > instead of  the default relatorio one, and that's why I think I need
>
>> > trytond to be prepared for that.
>
>>
>
>> I think your issue could be solved with a generic wizard. And the user
>
>> will just have to create a ir.action.wizard with the corresponding
>
>> keywords.
>
>
> Well, using the ir.action.report is has the advantage (I think) that you can
> override existing relatorio reports with your favorite jasper design. Think
> also about possible automatisms such as sending e-mails, or things like
> that. I think you want a uniform way of creating reports, no matter what
> engine is used.
>
>
>> I think we should really think about the benefit of having multiple
>
>> report engine (in the Tryton meaning). Because I'm affraid that we will
>
>> split the effort through multiple small projects instead of having it on
>
>> one (not necessary relatorio if it doesn't fit anymore).
>
>> This doesn't mean it is not possible to use something else but if we
>
>> have such options, it is opening the doors for such behavior.
>
>> Seeing what is happening to OE with their 5 standards + many externals,
>
>> it is something that I won't want to see for Tryton. I mean having each
>
>> one creating his standard sets of reports for his report engine of
>
>> choice.
>
>
> I understand your worries and I agree. At the same time, I think there are
> clearly two different needs that are managed by two kinds of applications:
> one is document creation (that is LibreOffice Writer, Microsoft Word, etc)
> and the other one is report creation (that is JasperReports, CrystalReports,
> etc). I think these are two kinds of needs actually with a different set of
> pros and cons and I think they must be provided by different engines. I've
> created applications in the past supporting both (it was Word and Crystal
> reports at that time) and also have seen proprietary ERPs doing the same
> too.
>
>
> Regarding OpenERP it is true that there have emerged several kinds of
> engines and don't actually know how to avoid that. I think that several of
> such options (3?) already come from relatorio and the need came because
> OpenERP didn't provide a WYSIWYG editor. Core provides RML but I think it
> simply is not an option because it has its own schema and doesn't have a
> WYSIWYG editor.
>
> Lately there's been webkit which I've got the impression that they created
> it for performance reasons.
>
>
> [1] http://jasperforge.org/projects/jasperreports
>
> [2] http://jasperforge.org/projects/ireport
>
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