William Kern wrote: > Christian Haugan Toldnes wrote: >> So the only real answer to Ariëns question is: >> No, almost nobody is still reading tsl-discuss, and yes, the vast >> majority of the community has moved away to other distributions. >> >> > > I guess that brings up the question as to whether TSL can be 'restored' > to a more active status.
No, it brings up the question as to whether TSL is relevant in todays distribution marketplace. The answer to that question is "No", and has been "No" for quite some time now. It was "No" a long time before the last of the original developers left. What does Trustix Secure Linux have, that sets it apart from the other distributions, even today: 1. The word "Secure" in its name. 2. No freedom to include a lot of tested, supported prebuilt packages. 3. I'm at loss. Trustix Secure Linux has NOTHING. Ohh, yeah, I forgot.. SWUP. Well, I rewrote most of SWUP to it's current codebase, and probably know the code better than anyone else today. SWUP isn't relevant. We tested SWUP on CentOS, it didn't work. We tested SWUP on Mandriva, it didn't work. Guess what: The only reason SWUP works is that the rpm packages generated at Trustix has undergone great scrutiny to be 100% correct, so that SWUP can handle them. And SWUP works because there are extremely few packages. More packages forces SWUP to become extremely slow. SWUP and rdfgen forces the rpm package developers to do everything as good as they can. But no distribution needs that. in most cases, 80% is enough. When was the last time your heard anyone having problems with dependencies between supported prebuilt binary packages? RPM-hell is a relic of the past. SWUP is irrelevant, because there are other tools out there that outperforms SWUP any day of the week. SWUP could have been much more relevant, had it undergone continuously development over the years. Take a look at the SWUP source rpm. Read the Changelog... "2005-08-12 - SWUP version 2.7.15" This was the date I added the latest changes to SWUP. The only change was to add a cgi to be able to use swup as a search engine for trustix.org: http://www.trustix.org/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,67/ Irrelevant. :) > > I still like TSL and have several machines running it. Cool you still like it. Too bad your stuck with those machines. > > I also have a lot of machines running CentOS/RedHat for clients and they > work fine, but I find that > I miss the nice lightweigth TSL distro. It gave me everything I need > without having to go in and > disable/remove the extra crap. Try installing Ubuntu Server. You get nothing you don't absolutely need, just like TSL. Same way with most other distributions today. TSL identified that as a problem early on, and dealt with it. The others came around, and since TSL haven't evolved since then, it's not needed. Small distros that takes the technology further is always needed. TSL haven't been innovative for the last many years. > > Certainly there is a need for a 'TSL' like distro in the linux community. All major distributions are equal to or better than TSL at everything TSL tries to be today. c _______________________________________________ tsl-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.trustix.org/mailman/listinfo/tsl-discuss
