2009/6/3 Frederik Deweerdt <frederik.dewee...@xprog.eu>: > On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:59:20AM +0200, Eric Noulard wrote: >> 2009/6/2 Frederik Deweerdt <frederik.dewee...@xprog.eu>: >> >> >> >> May be we should (re)start a discussion on using either Git or Hg as a >> >> replacement for CVS. >> >> DVCS are obviously more robust solutions in this kind of situation, >> >> plus the other advantages they bring. >> > >> > Yes, yes, yes! I'd say that we could let savannah as is and sync from >> > time to time, I'll try setting up a repository at github to see what >> > can be done with the import options . I'm more familiar with git, but >> > don't mind using mercurial either. >> >> What do you mean by "as-is"? >> Savannah is now (since some time ago) offering either >> git or hg hosting as VCS. > If I understood correctly, if we don't do anything, savannah will restore > the backup as CVS.
Yes and I find it the right short term solution. > So we could let the CVS as official repo, then have a git tree somewhere > else (it's not the first time that savannah is unavailable/crashes), > and sync git and CVS from time to time. We could but I don't really like the idea of a "master" CVS, while most of us will certainly want git or hg or git or hg or ... Note that having a "master" git @ Savannah does not exclude the idea of having other git synchronized tree elsewhere is order to ensure that those servers can sustain the load of our commit rate :-) No more seriously having some git/hg tree replica will ensure better chance of recovery. Concerning Savannah outage I have to temper your words. As far as I remember we did face 3 outage period during the last 7 years and only one of them was a crash with possible data-loss. The first outage has been during something like a week due to some security issue. The second was something like a network failure. Both outage did not induce data loss (beside regenerating ssh key). The third and last was the disk mess-up, which is like very very unlikely situation, where your RAID hardware setup + software backup **may** broke together. Note that most respectful hosting services do experience full or partial outage: http://apps.sourceforge.net/wordpress/sourceforge/category/outages/ http://lists.debian.org/cdwrite/2004/04/msg00132.html http://github.com/blog/387-afternoon-outage Whatsoever each time the Savannah hackers were fast and responsive. I think we should thank them a lot for their hard work. Remember we do not pay a penny for this service, EVEN not a single spurious Webs Ads of ANY kind (besides some levitating GNU on the left). I personnally think they deserve some fidelity. I even think that if the free/open source model of work induce some risks we should find a way to cope with it. Gooing DVCS may be a solution. Freedom has no price but we should be prepared for it :-) Moreover since Savannah offers both git and hg I don't see why we cannot switch to git or hg directly on Savannah? The only reason is to "keep" some "legacy" cvs access, which we can already have (read-only) using git-cvsserver. >From another exchange with Savannah hackers: > Me >> However I wanted to know whether if Savannah offers to git-cvsserver access >> to git hosted project or not? > Savannah Hackers > Yes (at pserver.git.savannah.gnu.org) >> I'll start a thread with git vs hg soon. > Be sure to CC toulibre, so that the flames are effective :-) Off course I will, even if I'm pretty sure git will burn during this flame :-) Stay tuned. -- Erk _______________________________________________ Tsp-devel mailing list Tsp-devel@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tsp-devel
