Hi Marie,

After reading a while QUIC 
(https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RNHkx_VvKWyWg6Lr8SZ-saqsQx7rFV-ev2jRFUoVD34/edit),
 I understand that it tunnel and multiplex several transport flows between a 
client and a server. It works over UDP and could be very useful when web 
browsing because there is a lot of TCP flows interacting (one per web object).
Nevertheless, TCM-TF intends to be transparent for the end points and can 
tunnel, multiplex and compress several flows from different users between two 
any points within the network: for example, between a game server placed in 
Germany and one point aggregating hundreds of players in Spain (a transport 
router or whatever).

Regards,
Fernando

Fernando Pascual Blanco
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On 21/11/2013, at 13:00, Marie-Jose Montpetit 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Look at QUIC amongst others.

Marie-José Montpetit
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On Nov 21, 2013, at 6:56, FERNANDO PASCUAL BLANCO 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Marie,

I think transport accelerators are more focused in optimizing single data flows 
(compression and maybe tunneling). The main difference here would be the 
multiplexing of several data flows of different users. Please, if I am 
misunderstand you, provide more information about any other transport 
accelerator.

Un saludo,
Fernando

Fernando Pascual Blanco
Network Automation and Dynamization | Telefonica Global Resources
C/ Don Ramón de la Cruz 82-82, 28006, Madrid, España
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> |F +34 91 312 8779  
|  M +34 682 005 168

On 20/11/2013, at 21:32, Marie-Jose Montpetit 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

If there is a discussion about charter I would like to see how this is 
different from any other 'transport accelerators' especially if the use cases 
now include VoIP, wireless and satellite links not just real time gaming or 
video streaming.

/mjm

Marie-José Montpetit
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On Nov 20, 2013, at 11:19, "Eggert, Lars" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi,

On 2013-11-20, at 10:24, Jose Saldana 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
But if you want to use it in more than a single hop, ROHC has to be
tunneled, and you lose the savings achieved by compression. So the idea is
that a number of packets (multiplexed) share the tunnel overhead.

several of the scenarios you describe for TCM-TF seem to be fully addressed by 
ROHC, i.e., do not seem to have multiple L3 hops that require creation of a 
tunnel.

It would be good to explicitly limit yourself to describing scenarios that do 
have that requirement.

Lars
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