On 7/28/2016 12:20 AM, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
>> > The challenge with STUN has always been that many middleboxes *do not
>> > want to be found*.
> Which is one reason to improve STUN - right?

You can't fix something that doesn't *want* to be found.  So-called
"transparent" middleboxes (I call them hijacking attackers) do
everything possible to hide, which means they refused to participate in
any mechanism you create and try very hard not to be discovered at all.

All you can do is cause them visibly break so you can detect and
eradicate them.

Joe

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