On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 03:52:54PM -0700, Joe Touch wrote:
> 
> 
> On Aug 16, 2018, at 3:10 PM, Benjamin Kaduk <ka...@mit.edu> wrote:
> 
> >> Keepalives at a layer SHOULD NOT be interpreted as implying state at
> >> any other layer.
> > 
> > What's going on here in the last sentence is probably a bit subtle -- a
> > keeaplive both does not indicate "real" protocol activity but also can
> > serve to exercise the lower protocol layers (and, even, per the previous
> > sentence, suppresses their keepalives).
> 
> That may be intended but is never actually known. Lower layers can compress, 
> cache, merge, and otherwise change the effect a transmission st one layer has 
> on any other. 

Right, that's why it's subtle :)

-Benjamin

> Protocols should avoid trying to do this. 
> 
> Joe

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