Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, 2002-07-08 at 05:05, Daniel Rall wrote:
> > Martin Poeschl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> > i'm not sure what the timeframe for a 3.0 release is .. there are some
>> > users who don't want to use any packages marked as alpha or beta .. i
>> > think we must shorten our release cycles!!
>> 
>> I am willing to help out with a real beta release of 3.0, based on
>> either Fulcrum or an Avalon container. 
>
> I definitely think the Avalon container is the way to go. There are two
> containers here:
>
> http://tambora.zenplex.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/plexus/
>
> One based on Fortress and one based on Tweety.

The one (which I assume is) based on Fortress looks copacetic.

>> Is there a Turbine 3.0 TODO
>> list enumerating the minimal requirements for such a release
>> milestone? 
>
> A standardized requirements document would be good.

Yes.  I'm willing to work on this if you'll toss in a few
requirements.  I'd like to hear from the rest of you on this as well.

>> If not, is there any preference for where I should put it
>> in the jakarta-turbine-3 CVS repository?
>
> I think that's as good a place as any.

Okay.  But where within the repo?  At the root level, or as an xdoc?

...
> Dan, I know you are used to working with HEAD so at least this way we
> could organize something.
>
> As far as Turbine, there is the plexus container and a little bundle of
> what I would like to see for Turbine 3.0:
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/~jvanzyl/t3-jvz.tgz

I'll try to find time to look, but I'd prefer an english description.
:)

> It is entirely stripped down (~30k) and I know that what is currently in
> t3  is important for the apps you're involved with. What currently
> exists for t3 is still really t2 cleaned and still doesn't satisfy the
> requirement of full decoupling or ease of use.

Will you describe how you can strip further T3 and maintain backwards
compatibility?  I haven't looked through the tarball yet and am sure
there are answers in there, but am hoping to get some requirements out
of your description.

>>  If so, how does this schedule compare with the T3 TODO list?
>
> I think the first requirement is to get the build and documentation
> system together. Of course, as per usual this has taken longer than
> expected but the Jelly'ized version of Maven is working now. And
> with heavy weights like Bob McWhirter and James Strachan working on
> Maven now it won't take long.

Indeed.  I'll kibitz with you on IRC about this.

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