Daniel Rall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Won't. Start. SCM. Debate. Won't. Start. SCM. Debate.

>I'm glad to have brightened your day.

>> I remember the comments of Al Viro (which I do trust about code taste) on
>> LKLM about Subversion.  (Google for +"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" +subversion)
>> or look at http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0210.0/2508.html

>Interesting how a completely unsupported post from two and a half months 
>ago by some random kernel hacker skews your view, Henning.  Have you ever

Hm. I wouldn't call Al Viro a "random kernel hacker". And the
"Bitkeeper vs. everything else" debate raged about three months on
LKLM. Yes, I'm a regular reader over there. While Al might be a PITA,
he definitely has programming style. And I do trust his opinions.
After all, much of my business runs on code that he wrote and it runs
well. :-)

>looked at the Subversion source code?  Have you even used Subversion?  IMHO, 

No. Yes (but not much and it was quite a while ago. I was looking at
Agis (sp?), SVN, Bitkeeper (then still in Beta) and quite a few more
tools as a replacement for CVS. I ended up with CVS. :-)

>the code base is excellent, especially for a project only two years old.

Can't comment on that. Didn't read into it, don't intend to.

>> Ah well. CVS it is. :-)

>As soon as Subversion hits 1.0, the Infrastructure team will install it on
>ASF servers and we will begin to transition over to it.  Initial 
>preparations have already begun.

IMHO, each project should decide for itself.  And especially the
committers should decide. You might hit a solid "-1" from me until SVN
has actually proved itself in production for at least six months.

I will never ever trust a "1.0" release of a tool (no matter which
tool) enough to put all my apples (speak: my source trees) on it.

Thanks' for the info, I will now start to rsync the jakarta cvs trees
on a regular base, so I can desaster recover.

Don't get me wrong. I'd love to get a better OSS tool than CVS for
SCM.  I'd love to be able to use BitKeeper (where the open licensing
is unacceptable to me and the cost of about $5000+ per seat per year
is too much for a small company like us). But CVS is release 1.11 on
almost ten solid years of experience. No way I will trade this for a
tool which "just hit 1.0".

        Regards
                Henning
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