Humberto and Henning
    I know this is happening. As a matter of fact, I have been wanting to
help Turbine become Torque independant for a while. But I think I will need
to learn a bit more about Turbine inner workings before I could give my 2
cents there.
    Nevertheless, I think FM community deserve a place around Turbine and I
think Turbine would be a better place to be if we could asure them that
place. Not because FM is better than Velocity, but because anyone deserves
it. JSP inclusive ;)

Rodrigo

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Humberto Hernandez Torres" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Turbine Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: Freemarker support


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rodrigo Reyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:19 AM
> > To: Turbine Developers List
> > Subject: Re: Freemarker support
> >
> >
> > Hi all
> >     I've been reading the current posts about Freemaker and I
> > think it is
> > time to share my point of view.
> >     I believe Turbine should be "tool-agnostic". What do I
> > mean? Turbine
> > should (and I think, it does most of the time) provide a
> > framework which
> > should be able to work with whichever tool I decide to use.
> > An example for
> > this: OR mapping tools. I know most people around Turbine like Torque.
> > Still, I don't. I may change my opinion later, but so far, I
> > prefer other
> > tools like Hibernator. So I think Turbine should provide a trully
> > "tool-agnostic" framework where I could use Hibernator
> > without any strings
> > attached to Torque.
>
> That is understood and there has been a lot of work on decoupling Torque
> from Turbine. I've tried Hibernate with Turbine and it works fine.
However,
> There are a few things that could be done to make it easier. Eric Pugh has
> been working on a HibernateService and that will make it easier. Probably
> the strongest dependence on Torque is on the security service.
>
> --
>   Humberto
>
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