I was thinking that the turbine model has relationship user <-> group just
like the Dynamic model with the difference that you can also assign a role.
Thus, a user plays a role within a group. 
In the Dynamic model a user belongs to a group but you cannot specify which
role the user plays within the group.
Does it make sense?
--
  Humberto

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Pugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:15 PM
> To: 'Turbine Developers List'
> Subject: RE: Fulcrum security service
> 
> 
> Humberto,
> 
> Thanks for the input, and the images definitly help clarity!  
> I was hoping
> that the entities used by the Dynamic model under the covers 
> could be glued
> together using the Turbine model.  To me, the key differences are:
> 
> 1) Global group.  However, the Turbine group manager has the 
> ability to look
> one up, and if it doesn't exist, create it.
> 
> 2) The intersection of user/group/role..  I think that could 
> be put in just
> using the TurbineModelManager.  When a grant or revoke is 
> done, it adds the
> user to the group, and adds the role to the group...  That 
> way it should all
> flow out?  If not, we should fix it.  Or remove the model, as having a
> halfway there model is worse then no model!  And clarity (and 
> patchs :-) )
> you can provide are much appreciated!
> 
> Eric
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Humberto Hernandez Torres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:31 PM
> > To: Turbine Developers List
> > Subject: Fulcrum security service
> >
> >
> > Hi Eric, I took a look at the new fulcrum security service. I
> > can tell there
> > has been a lot of work on it. I liked the flexibility to use several
> > implementations NT, memory, Hibernate, and Torque.
> >
> > I tried to understand the three models and for that I built
> > an example which
> > I added to the documentation. I also added some images to
> > show the models.
> > My concern is that the Dynamic model is not as flexible and
> > powerfull as the
> > Turbine model. I tried several ways to solve the example
> > using the model,
> > but the solutions can become very complex so left the
> > solution incomplete
> > waiting for some inspiration.
> >
> > --
> >   Humberto
> >
> >
> > 
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