I see..  So what you are saying is that a user, in a group, has a specific
role..  Which makes sense based on the image...  Ergo, you have have these
entities:
User
Role
Group
Permission
UserGroupRole
in otherwords, instead of a user having a collection of roles, they have a
what?  I think the base dynamic enties maybe don't do all that you need..
But maybe you can extend them?

Eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Humberto Hernandez Torres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:21 PM
> To: Turbine Developers List
> Subject: RE: Fulcrum security service
>
>
> I was thinking that the turbine model has relationship user
> <-> group just
> like the Dynamic model with the difference that you can also
> assign a role.
> Thus, a user plays a role within a group.
> In the Dynamic model a user belongs to a group but you cannot
> specify which
> role the user plays within the group.
> Does it make sense?
> --
>   Humberto
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Pugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:15 PM
> > To: 'Turbine Developers List'
> > Subject: RE: Fulcrum security service
> >
> >
> > Humberto,
> >
> > Thanks for the input, and the images definitly help clarity!
> > I was hoping
> > that the entities used by the Dynamic model under the covers
> > could be glued
> > together using the Turbine model.  To me, the key differences are:
> >
> > 1) Global group.  However, the Turbine group manager has the
> > ability to look
> > one up, and if it doesn't exist, create it.
> >
> > 2) The intersection of user/group/role..  I think that could
> > be put in just
> > using the TurbineModelManager.  When a grant or revoke is
> > done, it adds the
> > user to the group, and adds the role to the group...  That
> > way it should all
> > flow out?  If not, we should fix it.  Or remove the model,
> as having a
> > halfway there model is worse then no model!  And clarity (and
> > patchs :-) )
> > you can provide are much appreciated!
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Humberto Hernandez Torres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:31 PM
> > > To: Turbine Developers List
> > > Subject: Fulcrum security service
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Eric, I took a look at the new fulcrum security service. I
> > > can tell there
> > > has been a lot of work on it. I liked the flexibility to
> use several
> > > implementations NT, memory, Hibernate, and Torque.
> > >
> > > I tried to understand the three models and for that I built
> > > an example which
> > > I added to the documentation. I also added some images to
> > > show the models.
> > > My concern is that the Dynamic model is not as flexible and
> > > powerfull as the
> > > Turbine model. I tried several ways to solve the example
> > > using the model,
> > > but the solutions can become very complex so left the
> > > solution incomplete
> > > waiting for some inspiration.
> > >
> > > --
> > >   Humberto
> > >
> > >
> > >
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