This appears to be a Catalina issue as you suspected.  I launched 
Catalina to look at documentation and then hit the newapp site at least 
10 minutes later for the first time. The initial load speed problem did 
not occur.

Thanks,

- Dan

Jason van Zyl wrote:

> Dan Brown wrote:
> 
>> I have built the newapp application and turned on all cacheing to get a
>> good feel on the speed of the application.  Overall I am impressed, but
>> the initial load of the Login page and the Index page after a successful
>> login is very slow on the order of 35 sec for the login page,  20 sec
>> for the Index page.  Without knowing the details of the application, I
>> was wondering what facilities are available in turbine that can be
>> leveraged to preload pages or get initial resources prior to the first
>> hit to the site?
> 
> 
> If you are using the latest tdk than the reason appears to be
> catalina. When I switched versions of catalina, CVS for the b5
> release the speed seemed to drop off the deep end. I'm trying
> to track down the problem but I haven't setup a profiler yet.
> 
> I was thinking of trying Resin in the TDK to try and pick up
> the speed a bit. Catalina is first and foremost trying to stick
> to the servlet spec, that is the first priority. The optimization
> will come later, but I admit it's kind of slow. Or it sure feels
> like it anyway. Jon is finding the same thing with Scarab slowing
> down and he thinks it's something in Turbine. I think it's something
> in Catalina but I'm just guessing really.
> 
> I think this because I used an identical build process to make
> a TDK with two different versions of Catalina b2 and b5 and the
> speed dropped off considerably when using b5. We'll find it
> eventually.
> 
> You can always drop the webapp created with the TDK into another
> servlet container if you need a performance boost.
> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> - Dan
>> 
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