Oh well, now I am not so sure.  I recreated this scenario, but I took 
the additional step of  clearing all the cache in the browser.  The 
problem reappeared.

Sorry for the bad analysis.

- Dan

Dan Brown wrote:

> This appears to be a Catalina issue as you suspected.  I launched 
> Catalina to look at documentation and then hit the newapp site at 
> least 10 minutes later for the first time. The initial load speed 
> problem did not occur.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - Dan
> 
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
> 
>> Dan Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> I have built the newapp application and turned on all cacheing to get a
>>> good feel on the speed of the application.  Overall I am impressed, but
>>> the initial load of the Login page and the Index page after a 
>>> successful
>>> login is very slow on the order of 35 sec for the login page,  20 sec
>>> for the Index page.  Without knowing the details of the application, I
>>> was wondering what facilities are available in turbine that can be
>>> leveraged to preload pages or get initial resources prior to the first
>>> hit to the site?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you are using the latest tdk than the reason appears to be
>> catalina. When I switched versions of catalina, CVS for the b5
>> release the speed seemed to drop off the deep end. I'm trying
>> to track down the problem but I haven't setup a profiler yet.
>> 
>> I was thinking of trying Resin in the TDK to try and pick up
>> the speed a bit. Catalina is first and foremost trying to stick
>> to the servlet spec, that is the first priority. The optimization
>> will come later, but I admit it's kind of slow. Or it sure feels
>> like it anyway. Jon is finding the same thing with Scarab slowing
>> down and he thinks it's something in Turbine. I think it's something
>> in Catalina but I'm just guessing really.
>> 
>> I think this because I used an identical build process to make
>> a TDK with two different versions of Catalina b2 and b5 and the
>> speed dropped off considerably when using b5. We'll find it
>> eventually.
>> 
>> You can always drop the webapp created with the TDK into another
>> servlet container if you need a performance boost.
>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> - Dan
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