On Friday 08 June 2001 12:44, Jon Stevens wrote:
> As I have already hinted, Velocity is going to be proposed as a JSR as a
> "Java Template Language". There is absolutely no mention of it as a
> competitor to JSP, Java is lacking a "Java Template Language". Period. I
> have written up the proposal and will be submitting it in the next few
> days. If Velocity is accepted as a JSR, then all of Craig's FUD will become
> moot. If Velocity is not accepted as a JSR, then I can point at the broken
> JCP process and say that Sun plays favorites.

I think that this would be a great step.  Jon is right that there is a Spec 
for Velocity but perception is in some cases reality and (most) people 
currenlty dont percieve that there is any viable alternative to JSP.  

Last night I was at the Tomcat BOF and I asked how hard it was to remove the 
Jasper engine from Turbine if you didnt need it.  This question brought about 
a hearty round of increadulous laughter by a room full of people that 
couldn't see why you would want a servlet container without JSP capabilities. 
 This showed me how much work there is to do to get the word out.

If there was an official Java Template Language then it might give Velocity a 
stronger foot hold at things like JavaOne etc.  Until that time we will just 
have to forge on and make Turbine/Velocity better than any other solution so 
that when people do see what they are missing they will want to kick 
themselves :-)


John
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