Hi Marco,

You bring up a very good point.  If it's adoption we're interested in
then IMHO we must have a working JSP example/tutorial in the TDK.  I
feel Velocity is the better approach however most people want too use
Turine with their JSP pages.

Take Care 
Jason Kary

--- Marco Pas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yep,
> 
> i tried the TDK and still it looks like i lot to swallow... 
> Next to that I must agree on the remarks of Jason Kary, that it would
> be
> very nice to have some 
> tutrials / quick setups etc.. This to guide even the most experienced
> programmer around
> Turbine. This could lead to a better understanding and greater
> adoption of
> Turbine.
> 
> My idea's for documentation would be:
> 1. a simple Hello World
> 2. a simple site with no ACL
> 3. a simple site with ACL
> 4. a site with some db interaction, this to explain the usage of
> Torque
> 5. etc.. <you all get the drift>
> 
> Marco
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leon Messerschmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: dinsdag 18 september 2001 15:00
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Tubine not so easy?
> 
> 
> Have you tried the TDK?
> 
> ~ Leon
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marco Pas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Turbine (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:32 PM
> Subject: Tubine not so easy?
> 
> 
> > I started with Velocity as tpl, and thought that i was ready for
> the next
> > step, frameworks...
> > Yee, that was a mistake... Velocity in its simplicity, is very
> powerfull,
> > and thought that looking
> > to turbine would be just as easy.. That was a mistake. (not to be
> taken as
> > an insult!)
> >
> > Are there any Turbine tutorials available,
> > I searched the archives and there seems to be noting available, is
> that
> > correct?
> >
> > Next to that i would appriciate some example apps that deal with
> nothing
> > more then
> > some DB interaction in coorperation with velocity...?
> >
> > can someone get me up to speed....or guide me to the light :-)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
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