Unfortunately I don't know anyone who is using this service and I haven't
used it.

Let us know how it goes and write up an xdoc and contribute back? Sorry, but
the more docs we have the better we'll all be off.

-warner

----- Original Message -----
From: "daniel robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Turbine Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: XML and XSLT with Turbine


> Leon,
>
> Yeah.  I'm a complete NOOB.  I found the xslt-service and was looking
> for a no-brainer (for some obvious reasons :) ) example of it in use.  I
> read through the doco and have the demo running, I was just looking for
> some hand-holding (oh hell, let's be frank, I don't want someone to hold
> my hand - I want someone to CARRY me :) ).  So I could get this going
ASAP.
>
> Dan
>
> Leon Messerschmidt wrote:
>
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > You can use XML in your Velocity templates and then transform it
> > before it goes to the browser.  Just setup your XSLT service:
> >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/fulcrum/howto/xslt-service.html
> >
> > and use VelocityXSLTLayout
> >
> > ~ Leon
> >
> > Warner Onstine wrote:
> >
> >> I haven't used the XSL service, but you should be able to drop in your
> >> stylesheets as they exist already.
> >> Here is the configuration:
> >> http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/fulcrum/howto/xslt-service.html
> >>
> >> and here is where I found the class referenced at the bottom of the
> >> above
> >> doc:
> >> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-turbine-3/misc/
> >>
> >> -warner
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "daniel robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Turbine Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 10:35 AM
> >> Subject: Re: XML and XSLT with Turbine
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Thanks for the input.  As I've said, I already have the site running
> >>> under XML/XSL.  I spent a lot of time with cocoon and I'm not sure
that
> >>> Turbine will work for me either.  I want to introduce as few changes
as
> >>> possible, re-doing the display logic in Velocity will take some time
> >>> and
> >>> it is already done in XSL.   Eventually what will probably happen is
> >>> that the pages will be cached as HTML and the generation will only
> >>> occur
> >>> when the data changes - a fairly infrequent event.  At any rate what
> >>> I'm
> >>> looking for is a more concrete how-to for this.
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>> Warner Onstine wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "daniel robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> To: "Turbine Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 11:17 PM
> >>>> Subject: XML and XSLT with Turbing
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I currently have a web site in cocoon that queries a db to produce
> >>>>> XML
> >>>>> data and then uses XSLT to produce HTML.  I am trying to figure
> >>>>> out how
> >>>>> to convert this to a Turbine app.  I have got the TDK running with a
> >>>>> sample app and have read through all the documentation I could
> >>>>> find and
> >>>>> searched through the mail archives.  Of  course I've come across
> >>>>> the XSL
> >>>>> classes.  I'm still unsure of how to use them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm sure I could struggle through this but I'm hoping that someone
> >>>>> could
> >>>>> quickly explain the steps I need to take to:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) Fetch data from the database - (This seems pretty straight
> >>>>> forward)
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Depending on how you do it, you could use Torque Object Model, to
> >>>> model
> >>>
> >>>
> >> the
> >>
> >>>> data
> >>>> you want to pull out what you want and place it into nice container
> >>>
> >>>
> >> objects.
> >>
> >>>>> 2) Wrap the data in XML tags
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> XML is nice, but what's the business need. Do you need to send xml
> >>>> data
> >>>
> >>>
> >> to
> >>
> >>>> someone else?
> >>>> If not then I would recommend using Torque to pull your data into
> >>>
> >>>
> >> objects,
> >>
> >>>> and a request-tool to allow you to 'pull' your data into a velocity
> >>>> template.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> 3) Transform the XML using XSLT
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Unless there's a business need for XML, I would stay away from the
> >>>> performance hit.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> 4) Output the HTML
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Help appreciated,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dan
> >>>>>
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