Warner,

Good idea.  Once I figure it out I will write it up.  I have some other 
errata to contribute as well.  Hopefully I'll get to it this week.

Dan

Warner Onstine wrote:

>Unfortunately I don't know anyone who is using this service and I haven't
>used it.
>
>Let us know how it goes and write up an xdoc and contribute back? Sorry, but
>the more docs we have the better we'll all be off.
>
>-warner
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "daniel robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Turbine Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:16 AM
>Subject: Re: XML and XSLT with Turbine
>
>
>>Leon,
>>
>>Yeah.  I'm a complete NOOB.  I found the xslt-service and was looking
>>for a no-brainer (for some obvious reasons :) ) example of it in use.  I
>>read through the doco and have the demo running, I was just looking for
>>some hand-holding (oh hell, let's be frank, I don't want someone to hold
>>my hand - I want someone to CARRY me :) ).  So I could get this going
>>
>ASAP.
>
>>Dan
>>
>>Leon Messerschmidt wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Dan,
>>>
>>>You can use XML in your Velocity templates and then transform it
>>>before it goes to the browser.  Just setup your XSLT service:
>>>
>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/fulcrum/howto/xslt-service.html
>>>
>>>and use VelocityXSLTLayout
>>>
>>>~ Leon
>>>
>>>Warner Onstine wrote:
>>>
>>>>I haven't used the XSL service, but you should be able to drop in your
>>>>stylesheets as they exist already.
>>>>Here is the configuration:
>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/fulcrum/howto/xslt-service.html
>>>>
>>>>and here is where I found the class referenced at the bottom of the
>>>>above
>>>>doc:
>>>>http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-turbine-3/misc/
>>>>
>>>>-warner
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "daniel robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: "Turbine Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 10:35 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: XML and XSLT with Turbine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for the input.  As I've said, I already have the site running
>>>>>under XML/XSL.  I spent a lot of time with cocoon and I'm not sure
>>>>>
>that
>
>>>>>Turbine will work for me either.  I want to introduce as few changes
>>>>>
>as
>
>>>>>possible, re-doing the display logic in Velocity will take some time
>>>>>and
>>>>>it is already done in XSL.   Eventually what will probably happen is
>>>>>that the pages will be cached as HTML and the generation will only
>>>>>occur
>>>>>when the data changes - a fairly infrequent event.  At any rate what
>>>>>I'm
>>>>>looking for is a more concrete how-to for this.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>Warner Onstine wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "daniel robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>To: "Turbine Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 11:17 PM
>>>>>>Subject: XML and XSLT with Turbing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I currently have a web site in cocoon that queries a db to produce
>>>>>>>XML
>>>>>>>data and then uses XSLT to produce HTML.  I am trying to figure
>>>>>>>out how
>>>>>>>to convert this to a Turbine app.  I have got the TDK running with a
>>>>>>>sample app and have read through all the documentation I could
>>>>>>>find and
>>>>>>>searched through the mail archives.  Of  course I've come across
>>>>>>>the XSL
>>>>>>>classes.  I'm still unsure of how to use them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm sure I could struggle through this but I'm hoping that someone
>>>>>>>could
>>>>>>>quickly explain the steps I need to take to:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1) Fetch data from the database - (This seems pretty straight
>>>>>>>forward)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Depending on how you do it, you could use Torque Object Model, to
>>>>>>model
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>>data
>>>>>>you want to pull out what you want and place it into nice container
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>objects.
>>>>
>>>>>>>2) Wrap the data in XML tags
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>XML is nice, but what's the business need. Do you need to send xml
>>>>>>data
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>>>someone else?
>>>>>>If not then I would recommend using Torque to pull your data into
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>objects,
>>>>
>>>>>>and a request-tool to allow you to 'pull' your data into a velocity
>>>>>>template.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>3) Transform the XML using XSLT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Unless there's a business need for XML, I would stay away from the
>>>>>>performance hit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>4) Output the HTML
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Help appreciated,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dan
>>>>>>>
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