I have a couple of guesses why struts seems to be more mainstream than
Turbine.

1.- It is based on JSPs an all the MKT behind. I personally prefer Velocity
than JSPs. I think that JSP was just a MKT way of competing against ASPs
from Microsoft.

2.- The documentation and the site seems to be cleaner and better
structured. And that gives you some sense of security in the quality of the
product.

--
  Humberto


> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Allaman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Why Use Turbine?
> 
> 
> Big thanks to all who contributed to this thread. I would 
> suggest a new 
> thread on Struts vs. Turbine, and perhaps another on Velocity 
> vs. JSP. 
> Both of these topics are of great importance to those 
> considering using 
> any of these technologies, and I found the posts in this thread to be 
> very illuminating. I do find Velocity templates much easier to write 
> than JSPs, and more readable to non-Java programmers.
> 
> Forgive my ignorance about how easy Turbine is to port to any 
> compliant 
> servlet container. And thanks for showing me how to do it. I 
> certainly 
> did not mean to malign Turbine - I quite like it, especially 
> now that I 
> know it is portable to any servlet container.
> 
> I am still puzzled why Struts seems so much more mainstream than 
> Turbine. I've never seen a job post asking for Turbine 
> skills. For some 
> reason I had the impression that Struts integrates better 
> with J2EE but 
> I forget where I got it.
> 
> What Turbine needs most, I think, is some kind soul to 
> assemble all the 
> documentation in one place where it is organized and easily 
> accessed. In 
> almost all cases, I've found the answers to my questions in 
> the existing 
> documentation or in the mail list, but damn, does it take a 
> long time to 
> find it! For instance, I could find nothing on how to port to 
> environments other than the TDK. Of course this isn't a 
> Turbine specific 
> issue, but how was I to know that?
> 
> Unfortunately, because the product changes like all products do, the 
> documentation gets out of date pretty quickly, so it needs to be kept 
> up. Wish I could do it. If I understood Turbine, app servers, and 
> servlet containers better I might, but my ignorance is pretty 
> daunting.
> 
> -- 
> George Allaman
> Denver, Colorado
> 303 466 2114
> 
> 
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