One additional note - I'm currently using Turbine for a web app based on an
EJB backend; the two choices aren't mutually exclusive. For the record, the
EJB framework has worked out pretty well for us, after some initial learning
and tool development to speed up working with our beans.
Still, I would only recommend using EJBs on projects that have either
extremely high scalability requirements, a need to support multiple types of
fornt-ends (such as Java client + web clients), or systems involving complex
distributed transacations. As more 3rd party EJB components enter the
market (hopefully open source as well as commercial), and the tools for
doing EJB development mature, there might be more of an argument for using
EJB on smaller projects. For now though I'd stay away, unless you have very
specific reasons for going the EJB route.
-Jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "John McNally" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Turbine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Would Like to Use Turbine
> The main argument against using EJB's is development costs, and larger
> up front hardware costs for similar performance. There is no need for
> the complexity involved in an EJB application for most webapps.
> Properly used JSP should be just as easily written by a non-programmer
> as WM/Velocity templates and if it is done right there should be a MVC
> separation. Templates just enforce the separation whereas JSP does
> nothing in this regard.
>
> Carl Ludewig wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I'm in charge of selecting the technology for a new web system at
AudioBase. I'm
> > inclined to use Turbine, and was wondering if someone could answer a
question
> > for me. The marketing and management folks have heard a lot of the hype
> > surrounding J2EE, JSP & EJBs. Can someone make a compelling argument
that would
> > go over well with business types on why we should ignore the 'enterprise
> > standard' promoted by Sun and use Turbine. Jason Hunter has provided a
good
> > argument for using WebMacro or Velocity, so I guess I'm really looking
for why
> > Turbine is better than EJB solutions provided by others. You don't need
to
> > convince me as a programmer. I'm looking for reasoning that would appeal
to the
> > biz types.
> >
> > Much Thanks,
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > --
> > Carl Ludewig
> > Director of Research & Development
> > AudioBase, Inc.
> > (415) 389-6875
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.audiobase.com/
> >
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