On 1/16/07, Mark Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You're more than welcome.   I'll definitely be organizing at least a
couple more of these over the next month or two.

Thanks for organizing this Mark. I've been wishing for more help for
months. ;] One question for you: I saw you mention that you'd done
some diagrams but I didn't see them show up on the wiki. Did I miss
them?

I'd also like to thank all the sprint participants. I'm doing an
editing pass on them, so look for them to start showing up on the
index page this week.

Rather than trying to track down the email of everybody, I'll post the
pages I noticed along with some comments. If you could reply to the
list, I'd appreciate it.

John:
* 1.0/AutoCompleteField
* 1.0/BreadCrumbNaviation
* 1.0/CheckedCheckBox
* 1.0/DataGridWidget

Have these been tested on 1.0?

Florent:
* 1.0/RoughDocs/CalendarDatePicker

This looks mostly complete from a technical standpoint. Any problems
if I edit/integrate this?

Christopher:
* 1.0/RoughDocs/FormValidationWithSchemas

I haven't read this and it's too long to glance over. Spot checks look good. :]

Andreas:
* 1.0/UsingPylintToImproveYourCodesQuality

This is something I really don't know about, so I get to be the test dummy.

Again, thanks to everybody who participated. If I missed someone,
please let me know.

> - Sprints are good for producing documentation but we need to plan time
> to review, organize, revise and integrate the results as well.

Karl has been looking after this, and I am very much interested in
helping out in that area as well.   If we have people producing
content at a reasonable rate, we should be able to edit, organize and
integrate it as we go.

I can do copy editing, formatting, organization/integration pretty
quickly. It's easier because I can put in an hour here and there
without getting lost. I like to have a full afternoon to write a new
doc because I lose track of what I'm doing and never get around to
finishing stuff. The big time sink is actually testing stuff to ensure
what you're writing is true.

I'll also try to help by pointing people to the areas that need the
most documentation work, so that they are producing the right kind of
new content.

If you're looking for something to do, shoot me an email with how much
work you'd like and I can definitely direct you to something.

I think lots of effort needs to take place outside of the DocSprints,
and I expect that effort to happen more and more as we involve new
people in the project through aditional Doc Sprints.    At the same
time, I think we're actually closer to having full 1.0 quality docs
than  your 10 sprints figure would suggest.

I think that there's around 80-100 man hours left in what I planned
for 1.0 docs. The vast majority of it is in widgets and docstrings.

I don't think we should unlock everything, but I think we should
definitely grant the equivelent of SVN commit access to the Docs a bit
more liberally.

I'm quite liberal about this. I don't want to do any more than I have
to. If I see someone making substantial comments/edits that I'm
basically rubber stamping, you get editor access. Additionally, all
current SVN committers should have editor permissions so you can
correct docs bugs (ask Kevin or Lee if you don't).

The main reason it's locked down now is because I (or Adam or Fred)
have personally vetted the information in the locked down pages. There
are enough well-meaning but incorrect comments for me to keep it that
way. I try to update the page as soon as I see the comment (I do a
comments pass almost daily).

I'm trying to keep this from becoming one of those project wikis where
you're never sure what you're reading is correct or not. I really need
to do something to make the locked down official pages more visually
distinct than the freely editable ones.

I don't think we need weekly IRC meetings, but more process discussion
on this list is a great idea, as is process/organizational page on the
wiki.

The DocHelp[1] page isn't good enough?

[1] http://docs.turbogears.org/DocHelp

I'm not big on process, it's just a personal bias. I'm not opposed to
IRC meetings, but there hasn't been enough people involved to make
such a meeting worthwhile.

What I should be doing is putting my todo list on the wiki so people
can pick off the low hanging fruit (e.g. there are a number of mailing
list posts that are worth saving for posterity). I got distracted from
doing this before the sprint. I'll try to get this up sometime this
week.

We need to work together to get more people involved in documentation,
and to provide them with positive feedback right away when they
contribute something.

I'm still working through the changes made during the sprint, but it's
mostly looking good. Formatting wasn't quite right on most pages, but
that's a quick fix.

I haven't gotten to the more substantial articles yet. Those should
come tomorrow and possibly the day after.

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