Jorge Vargas wrote:
> Hi I just notice two things that got imported into trunk and I had to
> post something.
> 
> tg-admin and quickstart templates where the two of the most horrible
> parts of the original TG.
> 
> tg-admin grew out of the templates engine and that's why it's based on
> paster and not a real commandline util. I say we need to stop that,
> which brings us to the question does tg really needs a cmd tool? I
> think we do but not for the core most of the old command module where
> development tools and/or wrappers to other commandline tools, we need
> to separate paster from the CLI and do a real CLI maybe based on the
> cmd module and/or have commands be loaded from entry points but the
> whole idea is too keep it simple none of this CLI tools are going to
> be used by "mortal users" so they should be smart and try not to have
> 100 switches noone will use.

I'm not sure what the distinction between paster and a real CLI is?  The 
structure in paster is there to make it easier to write high-quality 
command line scripts in a pluggable fashion.

> seconds the templates, they are horrible to code, all the branching
> with SO/SA made me go dizzy, so we need a better approach to building
> templates, and the problem is really with all the branching, for
> example having a full project be build with optional
> SO/SA/identitySO/identitySA, will mean having 4 different templates so
> we really need second the size just look at
> http://trac.turbogears.org/browser/trunk/tg/pastetemplates/turbogears/%2Bpackage%2B
> that's almost 10 folders of stuff, stuff that is going to break
> projects on updates, stuff people are never going to touch because
> they may break something, do we really need ALL that stuff?? code
> generation is sometimes the way to go but I'm starting to think here
> it's a bad idea. specially with all those instances with the name of
> the package, it makes it a pain to upgrade when the templates from
> which you started changes.

Can you just have multiple templates, like turbogears_sqlobject and 
turbogears_sqlalchemy?  They can both depend on a base turbogears 
template, and just add their specific items.

You can also raise paste.script.copydir.SkipTemplate in a template to 
skip a file completely.  The function skip_template(condition) that is 
available by default allows you to do this.  You can use this to provide 
full files that are skipped or included based on something.  E.g., 
skip_template(model!='SQLAlchemy') in a SQLAlchemy-based file.


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