+1 on the idea, -1 on the name.  tg-dev sounds like it's a pre-release
version, not a "batteries included" one.

Since you're proposing that the download page points to the full-stack
version, why not leave that named turbogears, and release a stripped down
version as "tg-server", "tg-min", or such?

-Ken

PS: I also think that the quickstarted templates should include the specific
package requirements & quickstart should run setup.py develop on the newly
created project (to install the ORM, template system, auth/auth framework,
and perhaps jslib), but that may be an argument for another day.


On Jan 19, 2008 9:37 AM, Mark Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> There's been talk about a tg-dev package, which would contain tools
> for developing turbogears projects.  The thought behind this is
>
> 1) tg-dev would allow the dev tools to update more frequently than the
> core TurboGears project.  The core should be as stable as possibe, but
> the dev-tools should continue to grow and evolve much more quickly.
>
> 2) It would allow server-installs to skip a bunch of dependencies.
>
> We would make the tg-dev package the thing which we tell people to
> install on the TurboGears.org page, and it would of course depend on
> TG directly.
>
> As I was thinking about this last night it seemed that the following
> items that are currently in the core should move to dev:
>
> 1) the quickstart command and the new-project template code.   You
> don't need this on a server, and it really is a dev tool.
> 2) the crud command and templates.
>
> We may also want to move the Toolbox2 code into the tg-dev package.
> My thinking here is that the Toolbox 2 gadgets should continue to be
> separate packages but it makes sense to put the code that hooks it all
> together into the "core" dev package.
>
> Just the removal of the paster templates will make the tg core package
> about significantly smaller, and should hopefully make the core more
> stable and easier to understand.
>
> If there is some agreement that this makes sense, I'll go ahead and
> create the package when I get my laptop back from the shop (or I break
> down and setup a dev environment on this borrowed machine.
>
> --
> Mark Ramm-Christensen
> email: mark at compoundthinking dot com
> blog: www.compoundthinking.com/blog
>
> >
>

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