On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Lukasz Szybalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Jorge Vargas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Lukasz Szybalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Dean Landolt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Lukasz Szybalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Gustavo Narea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Hello,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I think
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Do you need Identity (usernames/passwords) in this project? [no]
>>>>> >
>>>>> > should be replaced by
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Do you need authentication and authorization in this project? [yes]
>>>>> >
>>
>> totally agreed, we should make this the default.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the difference between required username/pass vs
>>>>> authentication and authorization?
>>>>
>>>> There's two layers to user management -- the who and the what. First, the
>>>> app has to know who you are (authentication), then it can make the
>>>> determination of what you're allowed access to (authorization).
>>>
>> also username/pass is less professional :)
>>
>>> So wouldn't the authentication and authorization include identity?
>>>
>> they are it's subcomponents, and the main complain we had with tg1
>> identity was that they where too couple, which is why this approach
>> was taken, and as usual instead of reinventing the wheel, TG core
>> looked around and found repoze.who, but since they are only focus on
>> the authentication part. tg.ext.repoze.who and tg.authorization where
>> born.
>>
>>>
>>> So it seems to me that you guys will try to replace identity with the
>>> new authorization system?
>>>
>> That comment seems to be very outdated, several months ago that was
>> done with tg.ext.repoze.who :)
>>
>
> so tg.ext.repoze.who already replaced identity in tg2.
>
several months ago, and now it got replaced.

> Can we standardized on the names? tg.ext.repoze.who vs
> tg.authorization vs? tgext.some name?
> either
> tg.ext.somename or tg.somename??
>
names are already standardized, please look at the other emails from
Gustavo where he explains it all.

> Also
> I don't know how much problem would that cause but could it be
> possible to rename both to something like.
>
> tg.authorization
> and
> tg.authentication
>
no because tg.authorization isn't handled by TG core, therefore we
can't change repoze.who's name. it will be like renaming genshi to
tg.templates which is a very bad idea.

> These two would make perfect sense, vs right now I would not know what
> is the difference between tg.authorization vs tg.ext.repose.who.......
>
for the simple user user zero, as Gustavo said it's 100% backward
compatible. For the advanced user a lot as it's pluggable and
customizable, think about it this way tg.ext.repoze.who was an
experiment to see if it was a good idea, tg.authorization is that
experiment turned into production ready (we hope) software.

>
> Lucas
>
> >
>

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