raises hand too.

I'll like to expend a couple of hours this weekend getting us a
independent doc release process so we can make this faster and better
and finally see your initial work go live.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:25 AM, percious<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> *raises hand.
>
> I'm spending a few hours every week on this process.  Also, I think we
> should have a doc sprint in the near future, as a prelude to TG 2.1a1
> release.
>
> cheers.
> -chris
>
> On Sep 2, 11:02 pm, Michael Pedersen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Okay, I've been working on these docs quite a bit since I first sent this
>> out. As of a few minutes ago, I finally managed to complete the first file
>> reviews. Every single file was read by me, and quite a few "todo" items were
>> noted. As of right now, I've got 128 items on the todo list. That does not
>> cover the emails I've saved from this list as "get this documented", which
>> I'm now adding. Nor does it include docs tickets from trac.tg.org, which
>> will be forthcoming soon.
>>
>> Basically, we now have a mostly fixed target set of items for the docs.
>> Who's ready to help me start whittling this list down?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Michael Pedersen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Lukasz Szybalski 
>> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>> >> > The output is visible 
>> >> > athttp://web.icelus.tzo.com/~marvin/tg2/<http://web.icelus.tzo.com/%7Emarvin/tg2/>
>>
>> >> How is this different then the official tg2 docs? Not sure what you're
>> >> plan is but wouldn't it be easier to modify the original content and
>> >> add the few sections that you have above. Work on the original to get
>> >> the pdf generated, and keep modifying until all the information is in
>> >> the same place?
>>
>> > As to how it's different, compare these two pages:
>> >http://turbogears.org/2.0/docs/index.html
>> >http://web.icelus.tzo.com/~marvin/tg2<http://web.icelus.tzo.com/%7Emarvin/tg2>
>>
>> > When you do, ask a couple of questions (and pretend you know nothing at all
>> > about TG when you do, this is your first time looking at the docs, etc):
>>
>> >    1. How do I get this installed?
>> >    2. What are the pieces that come with TG?
>> >    3. How can I use those pieces?
>> >    4. What are some of the common patterns for coding in TG?
>> >    5. What plugins are available?
>>
>> > And those are just some starter questions. Once you've started asking those
>> > questions, try to find the answers using the older style and the newer
>> > style. In my own experience, and along with the feedback I've seen so far,
>> > the style I'm promoting will be significantly easier to navigate. Instead 
>> > of
>> > screens full of links, we have actual text describing what people can 
>> > expect
>> > to find. We have (just beginning) an actual "to do list", so that we can
>> > identify where we've left documentation holes that need to be plugged. We
>> > have clearly defined areas for people to be able to submit their own docs 
>> > on
>> > various items.
>>
>> > Personally, I find the newer style much easier to read and navigate.
>>
>> > As to "work on the original", that's exactly what I'm doing. The original
>> > source for the docs is available at
>> >http://bitbucket.org/mramm/tg_2_1_docs/This is a Mercurial repository
>> > which I have forked (and my fork is visible at
>> >http://bitbucket.org/pedersen/tg_2_1_docs/). I've even sent along a pull
>> > request already for the base changes I've done, and I'm looking to get back
>> > to the documentation much more seriously tonight than I have been for a few
>> > days (July 4th weekend for me was fun, but busy).
>> > --
>> > Michael J. Pedersen
>> > My IM IDs: Jabber/[email protected], ICQ/103345809,
>> > AIM/pedermj022171
>> >          Yahoo/pedermj2002, MSN/[email protected]
>>
>> --
>> Michael J. Pedersen
>> My IM IDs: Jabber/[email protected], ICQ/103345809, AIM/pedermj022171
>>          Yahoo/pedermj2002, MSN/[email protected]
> >
>

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