Thanks Christoph for clearing out the TG style guidelines,
I admit that I was not aware of Contributing documentation page.

Apart reminding me how much we need to improve the doc ;)
It made me think that it would be cool to have a pylintrc that people
can download and use when contributing to TG.
I would be glad to use it as a commit hook if you can prepare one.

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Christoph Zwerschke <[email protected]> wrote:
> Am 25.02.2012 16:53, schrieb Alessandro Molina:
>>
>> Merging the branch made me notice just one issue, for future commits
>> please remember to split feature/bugfix commits from pure syntax
>> rearrangement/cleanup ones.
>
>
> You're right, clean-up work should be done in separate commits. I'm
> particularly guilty of this. Whenever I see a PEP8 warning anywhere in my
> IDE, I immediately feel compelled to "fix" it, along with the real bugfix
> I'm just working at, and then check in everything together. That's a bad
> habit of mine, I'll try to improve in this regard.
>
>> Also do we really want to enforce 80 cols PEP8 limit? I usually find
>> impossible to read 80cols python code and nowadays it is usually
>> possible to put two windows side by side even with a 110/120cols
>> limit. If you prefer to strictly follow PEP8 I'll adapt, but I really
>> think that the 80cols limit hurts a lot readability.
>
>
> I think it's still useful as it's not only about screen size but also about
> readbility (see
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/746853/the-80-column-limit-still-useful).
> Since Python does not use such long namespaced class names as Java, it is
> rare that lines are longer than 80 chars and I think it looks odd when in
> 100 lines 1 line "sticks out". Also, long lines often have a code smell
> (long methods with conditional complexity, too many parameters, excessively
> long identifiers). So I think the 80 col limit in PEP8 still makes sense.
>
> But this is mainly a matter of taste. Officially, we already relaxed that
> rule (http://turbogears.org/2.1/docs/main/Contributing.html), I just forgot
> about it. It may help if we check in a .pylintrc file with e.g.
> max-line-length=120 and other relaxiations we like. Then all contributors
> can point their IDEs to this .pylintrc file, and we don't see the warnings
> we don't want to care about.
>
> There are some other things that are not regulated by PEP8 and therefore are
> somtimes changed back and forth when different contributors prefer different
> styles. We should decide on one style, and document it on the page mentioned
> above.
>
> E.g. we should decide how to format continuation lines.
>
> One style is this:
>
> def long_function_name(
>        long_parameter_name, another_long_parameter_name):
>    do_something()
>
> Another one is this:
>
> def long_function_name(long_parameter_name,
>                       another_long_parameter_name):
>    do_something()
>
> Both are PEP8ish. I prefer the former, as I generally try to avoid
> formatting that only makes sense with monospaced chars.
>
> While I'm at it, we should also add more and better docstrings, and enforce
> PEP257 in addition to PEP8:
>
> One-line:
>
> def rand_bar(foo):
>    """Randomize the bar of a foo object."""
>
> Multi-line:
>
> def rand_bar(foo):
>    """Randomize the bar of a foo object.
>
>    Foo must be None, in which case we do nothing,
>    or a Foo instance with a bar property.
>
>    """
>
> Another thing that will help is when everybody checks in with trailing
> whitespace stripped. I hate it when I make a small fix and then in the diff
> I see hundreds of lines changed because blanks have been removed at line
> ends by my editor. We could also use a commit hook for that.
>
> -- Christoph
>
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