On 1/4/06, Alvin Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The code is still being cleaned up and commented.  Actual documentation
> will come later.  Python-hosting has offered a Trac for it so it will
> be scaffolding.python-hosting.com.  I am hoping to have it up this
> weekend.  There is a big deadline at work.  It is still 0.1.
>
> There a few differences.  Scaffolding does not use Identity because it
> supports user ownership and group ownership based roles.  The datamodel
> is similar to Identity but supports role expiry and ownership.
>
> Modules are called Boards and follow a specification.  By inheriting
> all the data structures are a base set that can be expanded, the data
> supports ownership and time expiry.  The Boards inherit from a class
> similar to the data controller but with more functions.  Whereas
> datacontroller supports one class at a time, the Board class provides
> CRUD for a tree, node, and element structures.  I will have time based
> structures working soon.
>
> All Boards are required to have an init function that will add all the
> default roles and configuration into the database.  All boards are by
> default ready to go with.  This opens up an interesting possibility.
> You could quickstart a Scaffolding project.  Easy_install the boards
> that you need.  As you start the application, all the data will be
> initialized.  The default controller has default function that uses the
> __import__ recipe in the python cookbook.  The CMS would be ready to
> go.  You can change your security and default Board names throught the
> admin screens.  No coding necessary.
>
> What is working now?  The basic Board, controllers are working.  I have
> the import trick mostly working.  Security does what I want it to do
> but not everything that identitity does.  I have been running
> Scaffolding in site-packages so it is fairly well broken out from my
> stuff.  It supports email output and configurable grid like my previous
> code releases.  It is not ajax.  That will come after the integration
> of client side javascript error detection.  Lightweight round trips is
> fast but no roundtrips is faster.  :)
>
> A lot of people will probably question my design decisions.  I have
> certain projects in mind.  Some things about TG bug me.  It seems like
> KID bothers a lot of people.  I don't mind Kid.  Mochikit and Cherrypy
> are awesome.
>
> <rant> SQLobject bothers me.  I have been reading the mailing list and
> it seems like the solution to a lot of problems is to go directly to
> the database and bypass SQLObject.  This makes the code less portable.
> By encapsulating SQLObject, I probably make it even more inefficient
> but it makes me feel better to know that I can work my way around
> SQLObject later if necessary.  I am not bypassing SQLObject currently
> but it is nice to know I have the option when I hit a performance wall.
>
> I think the way to get the nice syntax of SQLObject and good relational
> performance is to extend Catwalk.  If Catwalk or another data modelling
> tool created the classes and SQL to create the databases, it should be
> passible to get around some of the issues.  I think that SQLObject is
> taking the easy route to abstraction by moving transactions into the
> python code instead of leaving it in the database.  If Catwalk could
> operate like Framework manager in Cognos, it would be the best of both
> worlds.  Python Objects/Relational Speed.
>
> What would really be nice would be if I could insert intelligence into
> SQLobject so it if the database was say Mysql 5, it would use the
> stored procedure that I wrote.  There are some use cases where I have
> been able to get 30-100x more performance by using a stored procedure.
> For an open source project, I would like to give people the option of
> using any database but it would be fine tuned for the one I am using.
>
> While I am dreaming, python can be used in postgresql to write stored
> procedures.  Iron Python can probably do the same in SQL Server.
>
> </rant>
>
> Questions
> I don't want Scaffolding to sit in the TG is changing so fast.  Can I
> extend Quickstart with a template in a different directory?
>
> Thanks Alvin
>
>

Yes. You can extend Quickstart to add more files to it

http://trac.turbogears.org/turbogears/wiki/ExtendingQuickstart
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cheers
    elvelind grandin

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