On 5/2/06, Robin Haswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Sorry mate, it's been done.

http://peekko.com/chat/HomePage.html

Actually that's not what I was looking for, so it's been done twice. There is another one which
works on some frameset or other so it's 100% browser-based. But like all web2.0 projects it has a
silly name so it doesn't rank for anything.

-Rob

and this is the web2.0 thingy
http://digg.com/links/Chat_About_See_ANY_Webpage_Instantly_-_New_Ajax_Tech

come chat with me :)

http://gabbly.com/www.turbogears.com

Mark Prokosch wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a cool idea for SOC 2006 and I would like to know if it's
> something the Python Software Foundation would like to sponsor
> andsomeone here would like to mentor. It's an extremely buzzword
> compliant TurboGears+GreaseMonkey affair <wink>.
>
> The idea is to allow people while browsing the web to interact with
> other people on the same page/site/domain/topic. You will automatically
> join an ad hoc chat room and be able to chat with peers. The experience
> will be like an automatic IRC where every web page is a channel.
>
> Imagine that you are reading some blog entry and would like to ask or
> say something. You can post a comment of course, but often it takes
> time for the comment to show up and it's not always appropriate to
> clutter the persistent comments area with everything that comes to
> mind. Another scenario, that happens a lot to me is that while reading
> a newsgroup post I want to ask something, but I hesitate to post to the
> group because the answer may have already been given 4 messages ago.
> So, in this situation I search through the newgroup archive extensively
> to make sure my question has not been answered already and only then I
> post it (and still I fear the RTFM response).
>
> I belivee that  this project can really deomnstrate the prowess of the
> Python+TurboGears ecosystem (language+standard libraries+third part
> libraries+web framework) as a great web programming environment. TG 0.9
> has lots of features that can make this project shine: identity
> framework for managing users, TinyMCE for editing messages and Mochikit
> for making a rich user experience on the client side.
>
> So, here is the core idea:
>
> * Chat server maintains chat rooms and associated lists of chat
> participants (may or may not require an account)
> * Chat rooms are created spontaneousely as users surf to new web pages
> * A chat room is destroyed when there are no more users on its
> corresponding web page
> * The user's browser displays a chat panel embedded in the web page or
> a popup chat window (a-la Mochikit's logging pane)
> * If it's a popup window then a single window can be used to host
> multiple chats from multiple web pages (in different tabs or different
> browser windows)
> * The chat panel contains the handles of the current members and
> transcript of the chat.
> * The user can send rich text messages and see the messages of other
> members
> * The user can edit the messages she sends in a word processor like
> environment
> * The user can send images as part of the message
>
> So far, it all sounds pretty basic chat stuff except for two things:
>
> 1. How to embed the chat panel in any old web page
> 2. How to detect when the user surfs to a new page and notify the
> server
>
> The solution I picked is to concentrate on a single browser: Firefox.
> Firefox has a wonderful feature called Greasemonkey. It allows you to
> inject your own _javascript_ code into any web page. So, a GreaseMonkey
> script will connect to the chat server (via AJAX) whenever you browse
> to a new page. The chat server will send back the members list and
> possibly the entire chat panel. This way the original GreaseMonkey
> script can be very simple and the server controls both the UI and the
> functionality of the chat on the page (the server can send _javascript_
> code too of course). What about other browsers? It is possible to
> inject code into IE using browser helper objects
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_Helper_Object). I know there is
> also some sort of Greasemonkey for Safari
> (http://www.ditchnet.org/wp/2005/11/11/release-a-cocoa-app-friday-safari-guide-12/).
> Anyway, for a summer project (that supposed to showcase Python+TG) I
> think it's best to focus on Firefox and not spread myself too thin by
> trying to fight browser quircks on different operating systems.
>
> I would like to implement the server as a TurboGears application. I did
> a couple of projects with TG 0.8 (including using MochiKit for AJAX
> interaction) and I can't wait to do a TG 0.9 project.
>
> This project can be further developed along two branches: adding cool
> chat features (rich text, avatars, emoticons etc) and
> performance/scalability (distributed server farm, lots of users per
> server, hierarchical caches etc).
>
> If you like this idea, I will create a detailed proposal and submit it
> to Google.
>
> Cheers, Mark Prokosch
>
>
> >





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