On Aug 25, 2006, at 8:01 PM, John M Camara wrote:

> Kevin and other TurboGears Developers,
>
> It would be nice if an install package could be made that included all
> the eggs and a script similar to the one I described above was  
> included
> to make installing TurboGears easier for those who have issues with
> setup tools.  I use setup tools all the time and when you are not
> behind a restrictive firewall it works great but otherwise it can be a
> big pain in the ass (especially getting setup tools to install in the
> first place).
>
> John

I tend to agree. Here's something to look to for inspiration:

Locomotive http://locomotive.raaum.org/

Basically it's a self-contained environment for Ruby on Rails on Mac  
OS X that doesn't install anything on your system (It's all in a  
folder). It creates empty projects, starts/stops them, assigns ports,  
and will launch a Terminal with all the right PATHs already set so  
you can get right to work (or start doing tutorials, etc.). It  
includes everything needed to get started (Ruby itself, Rails, etc.)  
except for MySQL, with basically no fuss.

The point is, we need something like that for TG (perhaps call it  
"Flywheel" or "Axle"?). Reducing barriers for new people to get  
started (and making it easier on the experts) is a good thing. It  
wouldn't make sense to do before TG 1.0 is ready, but I bet it  
wouldn't be hard to slap together something like that, even including  
a Universal binary of Python and all the other necessary packages.

-isaac


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