hear here - being dying to say this since I started with TG - thought I
was just missing it, or stupid for needing it or something
On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 12:49 -0700, Ben Sizer wrote:
> I didn't see this mentioned anywhere else, so I thought I'd bring it
> up.
> 
> A lot of effort seems to be getting put into the tutorials, and into
> the various 'how to do X' mini tutorials. The Getting Started guide is
> really just yet another tutorial. But one major thing seems to be
> forgotten; the API reference is woefully lacking, and I don't hear
> about anybody attempting to fix it. It's not surprising that it's been
> relegated to the bottom of the list. Talk of migrating docs to a wiki
> seems to emphasise that this has flown beneath the radar. I know we
> live in an age of screencasts and so on, but that doesn't change the
> fact that the average programmer probably uses reference material far
> more than they'll use tutorials. Yet we're apparently neglecting that
> reference material.
> 
> If you look at the API Reference page, you get a screen which is pretty
> useless - a list of subpackages and modules, many of which seem to be
> for internal use, none of which have any sort of description. Worse
> still, all you get is this top-down view; there's no index for a
> bottom-up search, which is probably what most users are going to want.
> 
> If you click on a module, eg. controllers, you get shown a lot of
> private functions which shouldn't really be in the docs, and a lot of
> poorly documented functions. expose() is reasonably well documented,
> although even that has one big problem, which is pretty much witnessed
> throughout - there are no examples. Even if you've got this far, and
> seen which parameters you can pass in, working out what types are
> expected is often a case of guesswork.
> 
> So, let me summarise... the main problems in my humble opinion are:
> 
>  - No 'table of contents' that is organised in a usable manner
>  - No index
>  - No or very few usage examples
>  - Private functions need removing
> 
> In theory, this shouldn't be that big a problem to fix: Turbogears
> seems to actually have very few public classes and methods which the
> end user needs to know about. They just need detailing in an exhaustive
> way, rather than spreading information about their capabilities
> throughout 3 or 4 different tutorials.
> 
> I really think that the MSDN docs are a 1st class example to follow
> here. Each function has its own page, stating which module or object
> it's from, what parameters it takes and what type they are, what it
> returns, any remarks on how the function operates, and an example of
> how the function would typically be used in context. I appreciate that
> all that might be a little much for a Python docstring, but that just
> emphasises the limitations of auto-generated docs really.
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 

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