As far as I can tell, it is currently impossible to install from the
turbogears site without hacking of setup scripts beyond my ken. 

I would say this is a serious issue, as it seems there is no backup
install plan beyond the main download page. tg-setup is not working, and
the download instructions mention the possibility of downloading files
individually, with a link back to the same page that has ... tg-setup. I
can't find these other files.I can get an older egg by changing the beta
number, but have no idea how to do anything with only the egg or how to
tell tg-setup to use that egg.

This is, IMHO, a bad problem for Gears adoption. Nobody can tell when
they will have to deploy in a hurry, and certainly it will turn people
right off from the framework if they are stuck with no viable way of
downloading other past versions of other mirrors. Should there perhaps
not be a sourceforge page with a wack of options including every old
version available for easy download? If there exists a list of mirrors
to previous releases, it's not mentioned on the main site in the
download section. 

I realize this is "beta" software and you get the risks with the
rewards, but IMHO the situation right now is crazy. It should never be
impossible to revert to an older known working version, and for software
intended for "rapid development" I think contingency plans are
necessary. 

Sorry for the rant. I really like the way gears works. But I'm having
very bad deployment experiences right now which are making me wonder if
this is viable for a business option. I'm somewhat floored with how
problematic it has been getting gears code that was working fine on one
machine to work on another. :/

Thanks for listening!
Iain


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