On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 11:23 -0500, Karl Guertin wrote: > On 1/23/07, Peter Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd be interested in knowing what you dislike about CherryPy, I've been > > using it quite a lot recently, and found it to be very transparent, and > > well documented - to the point I almost wonder why they felt the need > > for a new version! > > CP3 is faster and is WSGIfied! > > > I'm prejudiced against Paste, partly because I don't really get what it > > is, and partly because the parts of Turbogears that seem to give me the > > most headaches (SQLObject and Formencode) have websites with the same > > templates as the Paste website :-) > > To make a simplifying analogy, WSGI serves the same purpose in web > frameworks as Buffet does in templating. It allows the possibility of > mixing and matching components across different packages. Paste > provides a set of tools for gluing WSGI components together. The > websites use the same templates because the projects were all > started/written by Ian Bicking. > > If you took CherryPy 2, exploded it into it's atomic components and > wired them back together with Paste, you'd basically have the pieces > of Pylons that differ from TG. CP3 is similar in concept, but it's not > wired together using Paste. I'm glossing over some details, but that's > the basic idea.
And is the end result as good as CherryPy? I was surprised to hear Bob say he didn't like CherryPy, because I thought it was a good example of a project that was complete in it's domain, and easy to use and understand, whilst powerful. It's clearly (to me) very well thought out. I've been able to do a lot with CherryPy without having to read the source code (try that with Turbogears widgets, SQLObject or FormEncode!), and where I have (only ever trying to debug errors I've made myself) I've found it very transparent, I've looked at one or two functions without having to internalise whole modules. There are a lot of bits of a standard TurboGears that I have issues with (mostly the bits that are being replaced: SQLObject, Kid, Widgets). CherryPy isn't one of them. > > > You've just led me to discover this in TurboGears. I've been > > complaining that interactive debugging of turbogears is too hard for > > ages, and I had no idea this existed. Thanks! > > It's turned off by default because it allows remote code evaluation. Yeah, that's understandable. Still it is sweet and a great example of what WSGI can do for us :-) > > > -- Peter Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Qustom --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TurboGears" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
