On Jan 28, 12:31 pm, John J Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John didn't offer any suggestion as to why he thinks OODBMSes are more
> applicable to "science/engineering applications" than business
> applications.  Certainly "science/engineering applications" is quite a
> diverse set of systems.  What did you have in mind, John?
>

Just a couple of other comments before I provide an answer to this 
question.  The reason why I brought up OO databases was the fact that 
Leandro seam to be struggling with both SO and SA and some of the 
comments he made were counter that of the experiences that others on 
this list have offered.  The reasons he gave for going back to SO are 
the very same reasons why people are switching to SA.

Now at the time I brought up OO databases I had not seen his code so I 
wasn't sure if he had an issues with SA due to education or perhaps 
possibly it was an issue due to not selecting the right type of 
database.  Since one of his issues that he mentioned was in handling 
inheritance I figure I would mention OO databases as they naturally 
handle inheritance.

Leandro has posted a link to his code which I just took a look at.  It 
appears to be written in Spanish which makes it a little challenging 
for myself to completely comprehend it as I only know English.  It 
does appear that for his application that a relational database would 
be fine.  I would like to understand why he had issues with both SO 
and SA but it would take me far too long to translate all the names in 
his code to English so I can make better sense of the code.

Any way back to your question.  I believe the right choice of database 
type mostly boils down to access patterns.  Access patterns are not 
the only issues but tend to be the most important factor.  By access 
patterns I mean how an applications will need to access or query the 
data in the database.

In a situation where you have classes that don't have any 
relationships and you need to be able to search on all attributes on 
each class you have an application that is ideal for a relational 
database.  You just create a table to each class and the fields for 
each table will just match the attributes of the classes.

On the other hand , if you have a situation where all your classes 
have complex relationships between them and the query needs are only 
related to the relationships themselves you have an ideal application 
for an OO database.

The reality is that almost no worth while applications falls into one 
of these situations but somewhere in between them.  Those that fit 
closer to the first example are those who should use a relational DB 
and those closer to the second one should use an OO DB.  Those 
applications that fall in the middle will likely benefit from using 
both database types.

The reason why I say science/engineering applications are better 
suited for OO databases is that they usually have complex 
relationships between their classes and their is very little need to 
query on attributes other than those used for their relationships.  
Business applications usually require querying on a large percentage 
of their attributes and thus better suited for relation DBs.  Like I 
said in an early post these are just stereotypes as some business apps 
are better suited using an OO DB and likewise some science apps are 
better suited for relational DB.

Hopefully this brief explanations clears things up a little. To give 
an explanation that covers this topic fully would likely require 
coming up with 2 examples (one good for OO and one good for 
relational) and then code each one using both database types and thus 
create 4 applications.  Once this is done a comparison of the 2 
applications for each example could be done.  This would clearly show 
the costs that are involved with selecting the wrong type of database 
for the job.  Unfortunately I just don't have the free time to do 
this.

John


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