On Sun, 2007-20-05 at 21:46 +0000, AD. wrote:
> On May 20, 6:30 am, Jorge Godoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'd either choose Pylons or TG.  And today, it looks like TG is
> > friendlier and easier to get started.  Pylons might pay in the long run
> > -- but then, you'll be able to use WSGI with TG as well and some app
> > sharing between those might be possible.
> 
> That's a good point.
> 
> I'm more of a lurker* than an active TG user, but TG and Pylons seem
> (from a distance at least) to be more forward looking than Django in
> terms of interoperability with other Python web apps and frameworks.
> Django while being a bit more mature as a project seems a bit more
> insular and self contained.
> 
> So it seems to me that TG and Pylons aren't as reliant on a single
> development community for their long term success. There is more
> cooperation, code reuse and compatibility going on with TG and Pylons
> and their component projects which means that a smaller community can
> be just as effective as a larger community. It seems a more scalable
> community even if it does create more choices for new developers.
> 
> I think the TG and (especially) Pylons communities are just at earlier
> stages of growth than Djangos, but that their design decisions are
> more sustainable (is that the right word?) for Python web development
> and will lead to more convergence and compatibility rather than
> divergence (which has hurt Python in the past I reckon), and growing
> Python web development as a whole.
> 
> But hey, my slight knowledge of Django is a little out of date and
> they might be moving in that direction as well now - which would be
> even cooler for Python. Corrections welcome.
> 
> * Currently doing a lot of Drupal stuff (I like Drupal but don't like
> PHP), but would love to do more Python web development and is waiting
> for a good project to come along to convince my employers...

Very good points Anton. You pretty much summarized why I switched from
Django to TG. And I hear you on the Drupal. While hacking on Drupal is a
PITA, Drupal itself is a very nice product from a customers perspective.
I'm sure it is only a matter of time before we see TG/Pylons based
Drupals, and that will make it MUCH easier to convince clients to switch
to python!

Iain



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