As a  TurboGears user, I am very interested in the possible migration
of TurboGears to a Pylons base. It seems to me that Pylons is headed
in the direction that TurboGears wants to/should be, but is
unencumbered by the legacy of TurboGears' initial publicity and fame.

I wonder, however, if TurboGears is to be reimplemented on top of
Pylons, what is TurboGears? Is it simply a specific configuration of
Pylons? Is it a helper module that makes Pylons behave with TurboGears-
like defaults? Is it a migration script that helps developers migrate
TG-1.x projects?

~jon

On Jun 25, 7:50 am, Jonathan LaCour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Sylvain Hellegouarch wrote:
> > Indeed and I was very happy to learn about the integration but I found
> > that a bit randomly, it's too bad that there hasn't been a clearer and
> > wider announcement about it. It's really hard to understand where the
> > project stands currently :(
>
> Yes, we didn't really do a very good job of publicizing the sprint this
> past weekend, or explaining what it was about.  This is largely because
> it was designed as an experiment to see if it would be possible to write
> TurboGears 2.0 on top of Pylons, and was put together so quickly.
>
> TurboGears on top of Pylons is appealing for a lot of the reasons
> given in the original message.  TurboGears and Pylons are extremely
> similar projects with extremely similar goals, and it makes little
> sense to me for both of them to duplicate so much effort.  For a while,
> TurboGears was moving at breakneck speed from both a development and a
> marketing perspective, but the project has slowed down quite a bit in
> both aspects.  I think this has a lot to do with the weight of so much
> code on the shoulders of very few people, a lot of which doesn't really
> belong in the core of a web framework.
>
> If we reduce this burden by taking advantage of what is available
> elsewhere, we can focus on keeping the core small, and encouraging
> people to build on top of it with separate projects that can take
> advantage of all the WSGI-goodness that we will have access to.
>
> As for where the project is headed, who knows?  The experiment this past
> weekend was a resounding success in the eyes of all that were
> present, but
> there is still a lot to do.  A frank discussion about how to move
> forward
> is probably in order, and I think that will happen very soon.
>
> --
> Jonathan LaCourhttp://cleverdevil.org


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