On Feb 15, 7:01 pm, "Nick Murdoch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:30:57 -0000, George Sakkis > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Replacing Genshi with Cheetah or Mako for better performance, > > modularity and reusability (XIncludes and match templates suck). > > Unless your application absolutely must be the fastest it can possibly be, > I wouldn't switch away from Kid/Genshi. I used Cheetah in one old project > and the templates quickly become unmanageable with the difference between > Cheetah markup blocks and HTML-logical blocks. I also find Cheetah syntax > clunky and annoying. I imagine the same for Mako. I agree that a single markup is more pleasing to the eye, but syntax is rather a minor issue in this case. For one thing, the same developers that write the MVC code write the templates too, so a "designer friendly" template language is not a necessity. For two, we don't use WYSIWYG html editors so again an editor friendly language is optional. My main frustrations so far have been with modularity & reusability, expressive power (ugly kludges to make up for lack of statements) and performance, in this order of importance. I don't think I have grokked yet what match templates (py:match) can do that can't be done with functions (py:def), or how to use them effectively for non-trivial examples. Same for using XInclude to include anything more complex than a single master file, or making sure that a template is included *exactly* once. Perhaps there are solutions and workarounds to these issues that I am still missing but at the end of the day it comes down to the philosophy of whether a template language should be a real programming language or crippled by design. I understand that in some real world cases the latter is preferable or even required, but so far in this projects it seems it's more of a hindrance. George --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TurboGears" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
