Thanks for the update.   We should in fact add a little warning to the
tutorial. Do you mind making a ticket for that and assigning it to me
so we don't forget to do it before beta 2?

--Mark Ramm

2008/12/30 Artem Marchenko <[email protected]>:
>
> I solved the problem and managed to execute initializeDB.py correctly.
> What helped is to directly call the python interpreter from the
> command line - "python initializeDB.py". I guess when I was trying to
> execute just "initializeDB.py" Windows took the "*.py" handler from c:
> \Python25 even though it wasn't in a system path folder.
>
> My bad that I didn't follow the tutorial to the last letter. However,
> I guess there are quite many Windows guys that are so much used to the
> default windows behavior that run only "file.py" even if instructions
> tell to run "python file.py", especially when instructions are from
> the linux environment.
>
> It might be a good idea to add a note to the tutorial. Something like
> "Windows folks, be sure to write the 'python' word in the command
> line. On some machines running just 'initializeDB.py' might call the
> wrong interpreter copy".
>
> Best regards,
> Artem.
>
> On Dec 30, 11:44 pm, Artem Marchenko <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> From the virtualenv's python it looks like both zope and
>> zope.sqlalchemy are indeed registered and are found in the correct
>> place. Strange:http://paste.turbogears.org/paste/22610
>>
>> Artem.
>>
>> On Dec 30, 11:23 pm, Artem Marchenko <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > correction: there is python.exe in c:\tg2.0b1\Scripts
>>
>> > On Dec 30, 11:21 pm, Artem Marchenko <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > Hi Mark
>>
>> > > After deactivating virtualenv I've got the same error: zope.sqlalchemy
>> > > is missing.
>> > > Further analysis of your words and tutorial instructions made me think
>> > > that the clone of the whole python and many libraries should be
>> > > present in the virtual environment.
>>
>> > > Well, first of all I didn't create any virtual environment at all
>> > > everything was created by the TG2 windows installer. c:\tg2.0b1
>> > > directory created by installer contains \Scripts and \Lib with site-
>> > > packages inside (and zope.sqlalchemy is there), but there is no python
>> > > interpreter inside.
>>
>> > > OK, maybe windows installer created not 100% correct environment. So I
>> > > decided to create environment myself following the wiki tutorial.
>> > > Unfortunately it crashed midway with the error code that looks like
>> > > some pointer address:http://paste.turbogears.org/paste/22606
>> > > Couple of days ago (just before the beta1 release) I was trying to
>> > > install TG2 manually, without the Windows installer and was stuck at
>> > > exactly the same point. Actually I decided to try the Windows
>> > > installer because [as I think] it creates virtualenv itself and
>> > > somehow does it without crash.
>>
>> > > Now I am stuck :)
>> > > Installer creates not fully working env and manual env creation
>> > > crashes midway.
>>
>> > > Best regards,
>> > > Artem.
>>
>> > > On Dec 30, 10:01 pm, "Mark Ramm" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Looks like zope.sqlalchemy is in the regular python path, but you're 
>> > > > inside
>> > > > the virtualenv.
>> > > > If the virtual environment was setup with --no-site-packages it will 
>> > > > not see
>> > > > the system python path, it will have it's own.
>>
>> > > > I wonder if the problem is that you're using the virtual environment 
>> > > > when
>> > > > everything is in the system python.
>>
>> > > > Try running it after deactivating the virtual env, and let me know if 
>> > > > that
>> > > > helps.
>>
>> > > > --Mark
>>
>> > > > 2008/12/30 Artem Marchenko <[email protected]>
>>
>> > > > > Also the zope.sqlalchemy folder seems to be in the python system 
>> > > > > path:
>> > > > >http://paste.turbogears.org/paste/22592
>>
>> > > > > On Dec 30, 9:37 pm, Artem Marchenko <[email protected]> 
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > Thanks for the quick reply, Mark!
>> > > > > > I decided to make a clean experiment, unistalled everything 
>> > > > > > including
>> > > > > > the python itself and followed the instructions as carefully as I
>> > > > > > could. So far I failed. Here is a detailed script of what I did. I
>> > > > > > hope it helps.
>>
>> > > > > > Everything was happening on Windows Vista with disabled UAC.
>>
>> > > > > > 1. Installed TurboGears2-2.0b1-py25_Python-2.5.exe Everything was 
>> > > > > > left
>> > > > > > as default.
>>
>> > > > > > 2. Then I went to freshly created c:\tg2tr folder and started
>> > > > > > following the wiki tutorial fromhttp://
>> > > > > turbogears.org/2.0/docs/main/Wiki20/wiki20.html
>>
>> > > > > > 3. paster and everything else was not in the path so I activated 
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > virtuaenv via c:\tg2.0b1\Scripts\activate.bat After that quickstart
>> > > > > > worked
>>
>> > > > > > 4. After that several tutorial steps went fine except for that I 
>> > > > > > had
>> > > > > > to restart the service (since tutorial tells to modify __init__.py
>> > > > > > before you create page.py)
>>
>> > > > > > 5. At the initializeDB step I get no module zope.sqlalchemy:
>> > > > >http://paste.turbogears.org/paste/22586
>> > > > > > At this point "paster tginfo" shows the followinghttp://
>> > > > > paste.turbogears.org/paste/22587
>> > > > > > At the same time if I go to C:\tg2.0b1\Lib\site-packages I see 
>> > > > > > there
>> > > > > > the "zope.sqlalchemy-0.3-py2.5.egg" folder (not file, but folder 
>> > > > > > with
>> > > > > > just a few *.py files in subdirectories).
>>
>> > > > > > 6. Following your advice I run "easy_install zope.sqlalchemy" and
>> > > > > > script tells that the correct version is already installed :/
>> > > > >http://paste.turbogears.org/paste/22589
>>
>> > > > > > Now that makes me really confused. It looks like everything is in 
>> > > > > > fact
>> > > > > > on my hard drive, but something is correctly registered in half of 
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > registries only.
>>
>> > > > > > On 30 Грд, 18:24, "Mark Ramm" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > Hmm, sounds like perhaps zope.sqlalchemy is missing?
>> > > > > > > Is your virtualenv activated?   Do you have zope.sqlalchemy in 
>> > > > > > > your
>> > > > > > > virtualenv's site-packages directory (lib, python, site-packages)
>>
>> > > > > > > Can you post a traceback and the results of paster tginfo up on
>> > > > > > > paste.turbogears.org?
>>
>> > > > > > > I can't reproduce the problem you're seeing on osx or linux, and 
>> > > > > > > don't
>> > > > > have
>> > > > > > > a windows box handy to try the installer.
>>
>> > > > > > > If it's just not having the package try easy_install 
>> > > > > > > zope.sqlalchemy
>> > > > > and see
>> > > > > > > if that fixes your problem...
>>
>> > > > > > > 2008/12/30 Artem Marchenko <[email protected]>
>>
>> > > > > > > > Thank you for releasing the beta!
>> > > > > > > > I got acquainted with TG1 long time ago and was delaying the 
>> > > > > > > > real
>> > > > > > > > trials until TG2 betas.
>> > > > > > > > It is indeed possible to install TG including Python with the 
>> > > > > > > > Windows
>> > > > > > > > installers.
>>
>> > > > > > > > Unfortunately the wiki20 tutorial doesn't seem to work out of 
>> > > > > > > > the box
>> > > > > > > > for me 
>> > > > > > > > (http://www.nabble.com/2.0-tutorial-problem-td19719317.html).
>> > > > > > > > Whatever I do, it always fails in the initializeDB step with 
>> > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > dependency problems around sqlalchemy or zope.interface (after
>> > > > > running
>> > > > > > > > setup.py develop manually).
>>
>> > > > > > > > It would be great if somebody knowledgeable could go through 
>> > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > tutorial and tell where to fix it.
>>
>> > > > > > > > Best regards,
>> > > > > > > > Artem.
> >
>



-- 
Mark Ramm-Christensen
email: mark at compoundthinking dot com
blog: www.compoundthinking.com/blog

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