[email protected] wrote:

>> TG or Rails or Django have no magic dust, they just make a lot of
>> assumptions (RoR even more) that bigger frameworks don't.
>>     
>
> What are these assumptions that Zope/J2EE/ASP crowd don't make?
>   

Just an example. Coming from zope, I found weird at first that the only 
supported configuration in TG was a single database connection.
I needed six of them, with three different engines.
This is not a criticism, after all I was perfectly able to support my 
configuration because the underlying framework source was compact and 
readable, but a newbie would have been able to do that in Z3 out of the box.

> These are significant because TurboGears is *much* nicer to learn than
> Zope.
>   

Yes, but, for instance, the MVC pattern is much more flexible when 
approached from a schema/interface/adapter point of view.
I would _love_ to have the @@views in TG or in TW, they make a lot of sense.
Including/extending templates, or widget composition (I have not tried 
TW yet), does not seem as natural, to me.



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