It sounds fantastic. I love TG and I will love a little more with all those
improvements.
Long live Turbogears!

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On 30 June 2011 04:23, Michael Pedersen <[email protected]> wrote:

> We've been asked what the future holds for TurboGears. Specifically, we've
> seen people wondering what happens when the current maintenance releases are
> done. The super short answer is that we keep on developing, adding new
> options, finding and fixing problems, and generally making web development
> as easy and productive as possible. The longer answer? Well, that's what
> this email is for. The one thing I don't want to see in response is somebody
> saying "TL;DR", okay? :)
>
> First, version 2.2: We're working towards that release right now. We need
> to revamp our documentation into a full book structure. That's in progress,
> but it's going to take some time. I believe I might also look for an editor,
> and that's going to cost some money (unless we have an editor on the list
> willing to lend their time to making this better). It's worth it to me to do
> so, though.
>
> In addition, we need to complete our testing coverage, and close out as
> many bugs and feature requests on our tracker as possible. With each
> release, we're re-evaluating every single open ticket. We're looking to find
> out if we've already fixed it, or if we're pushing this particular one to
> the next release.
>
> We've also initiated a monthly release process. The release will occur each
> month on the first Wednesday on or after the 15th of the month.
>
> Basically, the plan is to make 2.2 into a platform so solid that it can
> easily be used and relied upon for a long time to come. We are also taking
> special care to avoid introducing incompatibilities or even deprecations.
> Without a solid reason, the code written for 2.0 will be able to moved to
> 2.2 with great ease and confidence in the results.
>
> Next, version 2.3: This release is focused on optimization. We are going to
> establish baselines for performance (basically, how well we're doing at
> 2.2), establish performance targets, and then optimize the hell out of the
> code. 2.0 was acceptable speeds. 2.1 was noticeably better. 2.1.1 feels
> noticeably (subjectively) better still. 2.2 Should be at least that good,
> and 2.3 is going to produce unquestionably better speed results.
>
> We don't have those numbers yet, and we don't have our targets yet. I can
> only say that we are going to turn up the speed for 2.3.
>
> Version 2.4: This release can be summarized as "extensions extensions
> extensions". We're going to get several common components made available by
> default. Right now, if a developer wants to make a site with a blog or two,
> a CMS, a shopping cart, and then layer his application on top of this, all
> of those component pieces must be developed first.
>
> For version 2.4, we're going to have those (and some others, too, we don't
> have a comprehensive list as yet) where we standardize on them and
> incorporate them into our standard release process. A developer will be able
> to build a feature rich website in very short order. With those extensions,
> we're going to pull TG out of being just a framework, and closer to being a
> platform usable for building anything.
>
> Between now and 2.4, we are going to work to make TurboGears into a proper
> abstraction layer. This means making sure that the lower level tools we use
> don't bleed through. For instance, right now you might find a need to
> reference something directly from Pylons (response headers, or the current
> route, or anything else). We are looking to abstract away the details so
> that our development community will be able to focus on working with
> TurboGears, instead of needing to know Pylons, or Pyramid, or whatever else
> may come up even further down the road.
>
> Beyond that, we're getting into the very murky future. Pylons has been
> deprecated, so new releases of it will be very hard to make happen. At some
> point, we will need to either adopt Pylons ourselves, or migrate to Pyramid
> as our base, or even something else (we're not sure what that will be). We
> need to consider adding Python 3 support. We need to evaluate dropping
> Python 2.4 at some point (some of the packages in our private eggbasket are
> behind the times because of needing to support Python 2.4, and the new
> versions of those packages don't do it). We don't have a timeline for any of
> that, not yet. We know it needs to happen, we just don't have a version or
> date in mind for it.
>
> While we can't say what our plans are after TurboGears 2.4 (because we
> don't know what they are), we can make a couple of commitments: Between now
> and then, we're going to work more closely with the Pyramid team: they do
> excellent work, and it would be foolish to ignore what they offer. We're
> going to make regular releases a priority. We're going to continue to
> support our older releases (the TG1.5 line is getting ready for a release in
> the near future). We're going to produce an ever improving platform for the
> Python web development community to use.
>
> And, personally,  I'm in this for the long haul. I'm seeking new work, and
> I might very well have killed a good chance at a job because of my desire to
> keep working on TurboGears. I'm okay with that. I want TurboGears to
> succeed, and I'm willing to make that kind of sacrifice if it will help.
>
> I don't ask others to do the same. I do ask that you offer up what you can.
> Even if all you can offer is questions, that's still enough. It gives me
> hope that, together, we *can* make TurboGears succeed in the long term. And
> that's what I want most.
>
> --
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