Just my two cents:

1) We are quite aware of this, and is the reason why the TG book idea took
life, as it didn't move forward much, for 2.3 I ended up dropping it
(because it was actually a bit confusing to have two documentations) and
refactored the whole documentation trying to make it more clear and better
organized. Any patch to improve it is really well accepted, feel free to
fork tg2docs#development on github and send pull requests.

2) I'm not sure this the right move for sure. In 2.3 we are already
providing the minimal mode for people that want no boilerplate and it's
documented on the first page of the doc. The full featured skeleton is
something many people like of TG and there are actually frameworks like
Rails that provide an even bigger skeleton and that never seemed an issue.
I'm for adding a set of options to the quickstart command to reduce the
size of the skeleton, but the default should probably be the most
comprehensive one. Anyway this is something that the community has to take
decision on, I don't think it's a great idea to switch the default from a
full featured skeleton to minimal one without even asking, it's a huge
difference in what people expect from TG.


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Mengu <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Recently a colleague of mine wanted to use Python for a new project he
> was starting. I showed him his options beginning with TurboGears of
> course however he choose Django. I asked him why and he told me two
> things.
>
> 1) TurboGears documentation is too much distributed and poorly
> written. Especially the tutorial was not compact.
>
> 2) TurboGears generates too much for a skeleton application. Why I
> cannot have a simple and clean application and then simply configure
> what I want later on?
>
> So, let's discuss these two points. From a perspective of a non-TG
> developer and even non-Python developer.
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