I know you're good at words so how about help come up with a good description for the TLP proposal of what Tuscany is about?
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Draft+TLP+Resolution Which currently just says "open-source software that simplifies development and management of applications using a service oriented approach" ...ant On 9/27/07, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Guys > > Sorry to be so quiet on this thread! How can I help? > > Paul > > On 9/27/07, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Seems ok to me.. .may be we could say 'embedded in app servers like > Tomcat > > and Geronimo' (just to bring in the connecting that we are doing with > other > > Apache projects. Yes, should be good to talk about Open CSA to throw > some > > light on the openess and standardization path that we are treading on. > > > > - Venkat > > > > On 9/27/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > This first part seems like a big improvement to me: > > > > > > "open-source software that simplifies development and management of > > > applications using service oriented approach." > > > > > > I've updated the text on the wiki to say that, I'm not so sure about > "The > > > lightweight, extensible runtime can be embedded or used stand-alone." > that > > > may be getting a bit to much in to implementation details, what do > other > > > think? Should we mention OASIS Open CSA? > > > > > > ...ant > > > > > > On 9/27/07, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Here is an attempt to clarify the description a bit more. > > > > > > > > Old description: > > > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > > > open-source software related to infrastructure that simplifies > > > > the development of service-based application networks and > > > > addresses real business problems posed in SOA, for distribution > > > > at no charge to the public. > > > > > > > > Suggestion: > > > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > > > Committee charged with creation and maintenance of > > > > open-source software that simplifies development and management of > > > > applications using service oriented approach. The lightweight, > > > extensible > > > > runtime can be embedded or used stand-alone. This software is for > > > > distribution at no charge to the public. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/24/07, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 9/24/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have reviewed and updated our STATUS file [1] and Status page > > > (that > > > > > > should be refreshed soon) [2] with latest and missing news. > Please > > > let > > > > > > me know if I missed something :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks good, it's great that you revived this thread! > > > > > > > > > > Any other task from the Graduation checklist [4] that I could help > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You could maybe start a separate thread to discuss the resolution > > > draft? > > > > > Is > > > > > everybody happy with the description? Also it's a detail but the > > > common > > > > > practice is usually to list people Apache e-mail address (@ > apache.org) > > > > for > > > > > the PMC as it gives the apache id. You have a nice collection of > gmail > > > > > addresses though ;) > > > > > > > > > > Matthieu > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/STATUS > > > > > > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/tuscany.html > > > > > > [3] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html > > > > > > [4] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation#checklist > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/13/07, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm definitely +1 for both graduation and ant as the chair. > For > > > the > > > > > > tasks, > > > > > > > as ant mentioned the graduation guide [1] is definitely a good > > > read. > > > > A > > > > > > few > > > > > > > additional details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * In your resolution, one of the most important parts is the > > > > > > description. > > > > > > > Don't be too broad, you can eventually expand the scope later > on > > > if > > > > > > > necessary (simple request/ack to the board). Right now the > wording > > > > is > > > > > > good > > > > > > > but a bit too "fuzzy" I think. It's also good to add a > statement > > > > about > > > > > > how > > > > > > > the project can interact or play with other projects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * The other important parts of the resolution are the chair > and > > > the > > > > > PMC > > > > > > > list. Look like you're pretty much set on that side. You can > > > choose > > > > to > > > > > > > extend the PMC too, and add committers that aren't in the PPMC > yet > > > > but > > > > > > would > > > > > > > deserve to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Make sure that your project status page is up-to-date [2] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you're set, you can start a formal vote on the board > > > resolution > > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > community. Then you'll ask for the incubator vote. You'll also > > > have > > > > to > > > > > > take > > > > > > > the board schedule into account. Usually meetings are the > third > > > > > > Wednesday of > > > > > > > each month so it's too late for this month but you could be in > > > good > > > > > > shape > > > > > > > for October (should be the 17th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > Matthieu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation .html > > > > > > > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/tuscany.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/12/07, Mike Edwards < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1. +1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we start to identify work tasks to get us there and then > > > start > > > > > to > > > > > > > > parcel out work amongst folk on the project? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours, Mike. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ant elder wrote: > > > > > > > > > So how about trying to graduate Tuscany from the > Incubator? > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We seem close though there are a few things to sort out so > it > > > > will > > > > > > take > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > couple of months to get ready. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a draft proposal at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Draft+TLP+Resolution > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > we probably need to work on the description which is just > > > taken > > > > > from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > website home page: "open-source software related to > > > > infrastructure > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > simplifies the development of service-based application > > > networks > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > addresses real business problems posed in SOA". We also > need a > > > > bit > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > diversity in the initial PMC members listed in the > proposal > > > > which > > > > > is > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > current PPMC members. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to volunteer to be chair. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a graduation guide at > > > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..ant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Luciano Resende > > > > > > Apache Tuscany Committer > > > > > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende > > > > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Paul Fremantle > Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2 > OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair > > blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
