Sebastien wrote : >IMO application developers shouldn't have to suffer from the complexity of XML... >How about supporting composites without namespace declarations at all?
I'm trying to understand all the proposals here, what would be the side effects of going with your proposal ? This seems like simple, and simple is good... On 8/19/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ant elder wrote: > > The last comments have been in favour of keeping things as-is so how about > > just doing nothing and letting this thread die. > > > > ...ant > > > > > > Here are the last comments from the different people who contributed to > this thread: > - Mike, http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg21059.html > - Luciano, > http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg21068.html > - Simon, http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg21106.html > - Sebastien, > http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg21113.html > - Ant, http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg21117.html > > I don't see a consensus in favor of keeping things as-is in these comments. > > This has a significant impact on the programming model so IMO this JIRA > issue needs a clear resolution. > > > On 8/19/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> ant elder wrote: > >> > >>> On 8/3/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> ant elder wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Taking that line of thought and you hit the long thread associated > >>>>> > >> with: > >> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200701.mbox/[EMAIL > >> PROTECTED] > >> > >>>>> which is what I was hoping to quietly ignore by just keeping > >>>>> > >> everything > >> > >>>> in > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> the one SCA namespace. > >>>>> > >>>>> ...ant > >>>>> > >>>>> On 8/3/07, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Wouldn't this cause breakage in the scenario that I described, where > >>>>>> <foo> from Tuscany later turns into <foo> as part of SCA but with > >>>>>> > >> some > >> > >>>>>> differences? Any SCDLs written to just use plain <foo> would break > >>>>>> when Tuscany steps up to support the SCA <foo>. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Simon > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ant elder wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> How about having the Tuscany namespace extend the SCA one so you can > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> choose > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> to use that as the default namespace so as to avoid having to worry > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> about > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> all the namespace prefixes? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ...ant > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I don't really expect to win this debate now that the issue has been > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> brought > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> up, had just been hoping it wouldn't come up :) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>> I didn't really want to reopen this debate either but I didn't > >>>> understand both of your last comments so I guess I'm going to have to > >>>> ask some questions... > >>>> > >>>> Ant, what did you mean by "having the Tuscany namespace extend the SCA > >>>> one?" > >>>> > >>>> > >>> I'm not actually sure, my xsd is a bit rusty, i vaguely thought there > >>> > >> was a > >> > >>> way to say something extend another namespace inheriting all the things > >>> > >> from > >> > >>> it, but a quick search for it now i cant find how to do that, is it not > >>> possible? > >>> > >>> <snip> > >>> > >>> And also give my opinion: > >>> > >>> > >>>> +0.5 if people want to keep Tuscany extensions in the SCA namespace for > >>>> now, hoping that they make it to the SCA spec XSDs at some point > >>>> > >>>> > >>> I'd be +1 on doing that. The easier we can make things for people trying > >>> > >> out > >> > >>> Tuscany the better IHMO. > >>> > >>> ...ant > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> What's the conclusion here? I've seen different opinions from Mike, > >> Simon, Luciano, Ant, myself. Do we need a vote to decide the next step? > >> > >> -- > >> Jean-Sebastien > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- > Jean-Sebastien > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
