OK, I guess I didn't understand what you did after all.

I'm not sure why we are looking at the client side and the reference
binding invoker?    Is there even
a chain we care about on the client side?   Doesn't the chain consist
of a path from client->binding?

I thought it would ONLY be the service side on which we were
interested in using the PBVInterceptor.copy or not,
on the path from binding->impl.

(Does the chain ever span a binding? maybe in the default binding case?)

So I could see some service binding impls, knowing that a copy was
done by the binding, turning off the PBVInterceptor.
I was suggesting that the service binding might not know this
statically, but might know dynamically that the PBV copy does or
doesn't need to be done.    I wasn't thinking of using the Message, or
anything Tuscany-related necessarily, to make this
determination.

But once I found out I thought it would be nice to dynamically turn
off PBV copy on the chain.

Scott



On Feb 20, 2008 1:22 PM, Raymond Feng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The reference binding invoker can implement the "allowsPassByReference()" to
> return conditionally. Are you looking for the dynamicity at the per
> invocation level (i.e., need to check the Message)?
>
> As I said before, the client (such as the proxy handler or service listener)
> of the invocation chain should decide if the PBVInterceptor (should be
> refactored into a utility) should be used to copy the data.
>
> Thanks,
> Raymond
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Kurz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Bypassing unnecessary transforms by Tuscany databinding
> framework
>
>
>
> > Yes I can envision some useful transforms which wrapper/unwrapper data
> > formats without doing copies.
> >
> > That raises the question of how to turn off PBVInterceptor dynamically.
> >
> > I guess I hadn't given this enough thought before, since actually I'd
> > like to be able to do the same from the binding impl... I'd like to,
> > dynamically at invocation time, be able to turn off the
> > PBVInterceptor.
> >
> > It seems like we could use a setter on the chain itself to do this.
> >
> > Then we still have the question of how to turn off the copy or not for
> > particular data transforms.  I agree turning it off
> > is a good default, but it seems like it should be a possible for a
> > particular transform to, even dynamically, decide
> > that, as far as it knows anyway, the PBVInterceptor copy may still be
> > needed.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On Feb 19, 2008 10:32 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >> Raymond Feng wrote:
> >> > That was my intention to return true as the DTInterceptor will make
> >> > sure
> >> > the data passing is safe.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Is that always a correct assumption? I thought that it could depend on
> >> the nature of the transformation. Some transforms would copy or protect
> >> the data, some wouldn't...
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jean-Sebastien
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Reply via email to