Hi Amita,
  apologies,  on further detailed inspection I see that whilst the thread I
directed you to was relevant, the resolution of the license text was
documented at [1]

Kelvin.

[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg15317.html

On 04/02/2008, Amita Vadhavkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> When confirming for correctness of 3rd party license text, I checked the
> below thread -
> 1]http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg05115.html
> and got in summary the below guidelines -
>
> Treatment of Third-Party Works
>
>   1. The term "third-party work" refers to a work not submitted directly
>   to the ASF by the copyright owner or owner's agent.
>   2. Do not modify or remove any copyright notices or licenses within
>   third-party works.
>   3. Do ensure that every third-party work includes its associated
>   license, even if that requires adding a copy of the license from the
>   third-party download site into the distribution.
>   4. Do not add the standard Apache License header to the top of
>   third-party source files.
>   5. Minor modifications/additions to third-party source files should
>   typically be licensed under the same terms as the rest of the rest of
> the
>   third-party source for convenience.
>   6. Major modifications/additions to third-party should be dealt with
>   on a case-by-case basis by the PMC.
>
> But still have a few questions about 3rd party license headers in the
> context of below mail thread
> and findings -
>
> ML thread:-
> 2]http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg03314.html
>
> Findings:-
> in tuscany-sdo-api-r2.1
> 1> HelperProvider and NoHelperProviderException have ASF license
> and in test in same project -
> 2>HelperProviderTestCase has (looks like some old IBM+ASF license),
> DefaultHelperProvider, TCCL1HelperProvider have ASF licenses,
>
> These findings are a bit confusing against mail thread 2].
>
> Also when checked Luciano's work on DAS in JIRA-620 for license headers it
> is all for ASF licenses as DAS
> does not contain any 3rd party code.
>
> So, will you please see if there are some changes required in 1> and 2>?
>
> Regards,
> Amita
>
> On Jan 31, 2008 5:52 PM, Amita Vadhavkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I am going through all the samples to see if there are any areas of
> > improvement, If anybody has spotted some areas or have some
> > suggestions, please explain the details.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Amita
> >
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2008 3:35 PM, Amita Vadhavkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > How about having an IRC on 4th Feb ,Monday, 7.30 a.m. PST? Please feel
> > > free to suggest another time if this is not
> > > convenient.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Amita
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 29, 2008 4:55 PM, kelvin goodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was hoping to have done a full pass through the JIRAs to be sure
> we
> > > > cover
> > > > the most important ones.  Maybe it would be good to schedule an IRC
> > > > chat to
> > > > get community input on what is important.  We could go through each
> of
> > > > the
> > > > open JIRAs and see how people rate the importance and who would step
> > > > up to
> > > > fixing things.  That way we'd get a better picture of what's wanted.
> > > >  When
> > > > would be a good time to do this?
> > > >
> > > > Kelvin.
> > > >
> > > > On 25/01/2008, Amita Vadhavkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have worked on the comments for RAT report and added the results
> > > > at the
> > > > > end of -
> > > > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/RAT+Report.
> > > > So
> > > > > shall
> > > > > I go
> > > > > ahead and correct the 9 files mentioned there to include Apache
> > > >  header in
> > > > > them?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, what is the best way to ensure that the Ex:3rd do contain
> the
> > > > > correct
> > > > > license text?
> > > > > Any old mail ref. or any other documentation?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Amita
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 18, 2008 5:14 PM, kelvin goodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Amita,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Anything unmarked needs checking to see if it fits one of these
> > > > > > categories.  I only did the ones I marked up from
> memory.  Ex:IFF
> > > > files
> > > > > > must
> > > > > > me ignored,  but it must be clear from the rat report submitted
> in
> > > > the
> > > > > > release vote that thess files have been left as they are for
> this
> > > > > reason.
> > > > > > You can see this kind of thing in Tuscany-1171,  and in previous
> > > > release
> > > > > > vote threads, where the RAT report is manually marked up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kelvin.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 18/01/2008, Amita Vadhavkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is the action for Ex.IFF - ignore? Also what TBD for the
> > > > xml
> > > > > files
> > > > > > > under sdo-tools-test which do not contain headers - i.e. the
> > > > > > > last section from RAT Report - Unresolved.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Amita
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jan 18, 2008 4:35 PM, kelvin goodson <
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've marked up the Unresolved section.  There's a job to do
> to
> > > > be
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > each of the instances marked with Ex:TCR is actually
> such.  We
> > > > also
> > > > > > need
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > work out what to do to take account of the clarification to
> > > > the OSOA
> > > > > > > > license
> > > > > > > > that happened recently, that the files marked Ex:3rd may
> need
> > > > to be
> > > > > > > > changed
> > > > > > > > to be in line with.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kelvin.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 18/01/2008, Amita Vadhavkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks Kelvin, will look at all these points. Also,
> > > > > > > > > I used rat-5.0.jar and got the report at -
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/RAT+Report
> > > > > > > > > Please see "Unresolved" section in it and give comments
> > > > about what
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > appropriate to fix there.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > Amita
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 2008 3:56 PM, kelvin goodson <
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 18/01/2008, Amita Vadhavkar <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Assuming name of the release as Tuscany SDO Java
> > > > > > 1.1-incubatingand
> > > > > > > > > > > keeping
> > > > > > > > > > > ref. to the
> > > > > > > > > > > old mail thread -
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg27168.html.
> > > > > > > > > > > I am starting a new thread now.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Web Site documentation:- I could gather a few places
> > > > where
> > > > > small
> > > > > > > > > updates
> > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > be done. Please give your comments
> > > > > > > > > > > if these seem fine or need something more/something
> > > > else.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1) why on
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-get-involved.htmlwe
> > > > > > > > > > > have -
> > > > > > > > > > > Open CSA (SCA Standards)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This is confusing and needs investigating.  I think you
> > > > are
> > > > > > talking
> > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > the transition from ...
> > > > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java.html
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-get-involved.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In which case the "Get Involved" is a link from the
> > > > "general"
> > > > > menu
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > therefore  is general to Tuscany.  However,  the page is
> > > > > entitled
> > > > > > > "SDO
> > > > > > > > > > Java
> > > > > > > > > > Get Involved",  yet seems identical to the "Get
> Involved"
> > > > page
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > Tuscany Home page's Community menu apart from the fact
> > > > that this
> > > > > > > page
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > entitled "Getting Involved: Apache Tuscany".  I'm sure
> we
> > > > used
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > > own SDO Java getting involved page,  and I think it has
> > > > > > accidentally
> > > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > > overwritten at some stage.  I guess we need to look at
> the
> > > > wiki
> > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > > > history and see if we can recover it.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2) changes in
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/tuscany-sdo-java-faq.htmlfor
> > > > > > > > > > > new features, improvements
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm a bit confused here.  I think maybe you have two
> > > > separate
> > > > > > ideas
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > have been merged perhaps.  I don't think we want to
> detail
> > > > new
> > > > > > > > features
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > the FAQ page.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > TUSCANY-1468 - Use HelperContext for scope in Tuscany
> API
> > > > > > > > > > > TUSCANY-1128 - Support attribute and element with same
> > > > name
> > > > > > > > > > > TUSCANY-1359 - New SDOUtil: Upper and lower bound on
> > > > > properties
> > > > > > > > where
> > > > > > > > > > > 'isMany' is true
> > > > > > > > > > > CTS TUSCANY-1230 - Improvements to TypeConversionTest
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Something I meant to mention in regards to your other
> > > > posting is
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > CTS is not part of an SDO Java release.  We haven't ever
> > > > > >  "released"
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > CTS,  since  it's never yet seemed to make sense to do
> so.
> > > >  SDO
> > > > > > > > > > implementers
> > > > > > > > > > who want to use the CTS can download the source.  I
> think
> > > > what
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > want
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > here is a respin of the kind of release we have done
> > > > > before,  for
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > SDO
> > > > > > > > > > Java runtime.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Is there anything else from
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/SDO+Java+Project
> > > > > > > > > > > that can be added to it? Also do the above mentioned
> > > > JIRAs
> > > > > > useful
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > FAQ, or mention in Release Notes will
> > > > > > > > > > > be sufficient?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I see now.  Yes, release notes are definitely the place
> > > > for
> > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 3)
> > > > > >
> http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/tuscany-sdo-java-faq.htmlpage
> > > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > > > > not have menu
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  Good point
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 4)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-project-code-structure.htmlno
> > > > > > > > > > > menu , old structure
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > you are right,  we need to add a section for the lib
> > > > project and
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > tools-test project
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 5)
> http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/getting-source.htmlno
> > > > > menu
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > old
> > > > > > > > > > > structure
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  again, yes, this doesn't reflect the move of the api
> > > > project
> > > > > into
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > main
> > > > > > > > > > sdo trunk
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 6) developer guide - should we refer to
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sca-java-development-guide.htmland
> > > > > > > > > > > make SDO Dev Guide more complete?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  I think ideally we would incorporate some of the new
> > > > content
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > sca
> > > > > > > > > > guide into an sdo guide.  If the SCA guide is built up
> by
> > > > wiki
> > > > > > > include
> > > > > > > > > > directives, there may be scope for including generic
> > > > chunks into
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > own
> > > > > > > > > > guide.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 7)
> > > > > >
> http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-user-guide.htmlagain
> > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > > > > can refer to
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sca-java-user-guide.html
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 8) TUSCANY-1026
> > > > > > > > > > > Also, why
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sdo/distribution/src/main/release/bin/samples/sampleProgramContents.html
> > > > > > > > > > > opens the html page without browser rendering it as
> > > > html?
> > > > > (like
> > > > > > > > shows
> > > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > html tags etc.)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I think this is a firefox issue.  It's fine in IE. Not
> > > > sure why
> > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > > wrong
> > > > > > > > > > in firefox though.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Can we provide this link in
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-user-guide.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This looks like a useful rework of some of the content
> > > > that I
> > > > > >  think
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > already in the site.  It certainly was at one time.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 9) TUSCANY-1531
> > > > > > > > > > > From this - comment #1 - Some pages are only available
> > > > on the
> > > > > > left
> > > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > this page :
> > > > > > > > >
> http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/developing-sdo-java.html
> > > > > > > > > > > It should probably be listed/visible from :
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-documentation-menu.htmlas
> > > > > > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > > > > one of the pages with more contents on it.
> > > > > > > > > > > looks like is fixed.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > And with 7) we can fix comment #2 - User guide has wrong
> > > > styles
> > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-user-guide.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > fine
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks Amita for this useful review.  I'll pick some of
> > > > these
> > > > > > things
> > > > > > > > up.
> > > > > > > > > > Can you let me know which you plan to do and which you
> > > > would
> > > > > like
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > do?
> > > > > > > > > > Anyone else watching this thread is of course more than
> > > > welcome
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > pitch
> > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > too.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Kelvin.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > Amita
> > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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